British Airways First Class vs Business Class 2019 Review

British Airways First Class vs Business Class

2019 Review

A Flyer question pops up regularly and that is, “British Airways First Class vs Business Class – which is Best?”

Now, from the outset it would appear that the answer would be a “No Brainer” for most – First Class obviously…

With lots of variables to compare between the two Cabin classes, you may be surprised to hear that its not always a “Done Deal”.

Today we will take a look at British airways First Class vs Business Class and put out there the facts and conclude by the end, in our opinion which is best.

You may be surprised by our findings and this article may challenge the opinions of many..

British Airways First Class Review 2019

is first Class better than business in ba

What can we say, First Class is always going to better, is it not?

In general, you are correct but what happens when the same airline brings out a ground-breaking new Business Class product which puts out there the question again on most people’s lips – First Class vs Business Class – which is better?

Got you thinking?..

Let’s take a look at the British airways First Class product now and we will let you decide.

From the outset, we need to compare both products so we will start with BA First Class at the Booking stage of any flight and the benefits included.

BA First Class Seat Selection

BA FIRST CLASS CABINS

BA First Class:

All First class fares include for free seat selection at the time of booking 

BA Business Class:

Business Class does not include seat selection for free at the time of booking  ×

BA First Class Checked Baggage Allowance

BA Business baggage allowance

First Class
Adults and young adults (from 12 years) 3 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)
Infants (under 2) 3 bags (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness
Infants (under 2) 1 bag (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness

Business Class

Adults and young adults (from 12 years) 2 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)
Children (2-11) 2 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness
Infants (under 2) 1 bag (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness

 

  • First Class adult passengers receive 1 extra 32kg checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.
  • Children in First Class also receive 1 extra 23kg checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.
  • Infants in First Class also receive the same checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.

Comparison & Conclusion

As stated officially by British airways, First Class passengers receive 1 extra 32kg of checked baggage per adult & children. 

Yes, we agree any additional checked baggage allowance is better to have more, but do any passengers actually need any more than 2 x 23kg of checked baggage each?

Its a nice to have but in reality, how many First Class passengers actually use the full allowance 3 x 32kg allowance each is what we ask ourselves!

British airways First vs Business Class Lounges

airways concorde room heathrow

Today we will look at as a comparison the BA First Class & Business Class lounges at Heathrow.

First Class Galleries Lounge

The First Galleries lounge at Heathrow consists of 4 areas with various seating areas such as dining featuring tables and a self-service food area, a terrace space and a champagne bar.

Food options as stated above include self serve or waiter service from the a la carte menu. A Business centre featuring all necessary equipment to continue with business whilst awaiting your flight departure.

Champagne in Galleries First is self serve so you can help yourself to as much as you want. Other location within the lounge consists of a wide and high standard of other drinks available

Food is available all day during opening hours.From fully cooked breakfasts to a selection throughout the day or indulge in afternoon tea selection.

The Concorde Room

BA Concorde room heathrow

The Concorde Room at Heathrow is Iconic and known worldwide for its elegance and timeless style.

With Private dining booths including waiter table service including a-la-carte dining menus.

If you need to catch up on work before your flight, enjoy the privacy of the business rooms whilst sitting in a real Concorde seat.

Elemis Spa Free Treatments

BA first class Elemis spa

All Passengers flying from Heathrow airport on British Airways First Class receive a complimentary 15-minute Elemis spa treatment. For First Class passengers the treatments can be booked in advance up to 28 days or 48 hours before departure.

Complimentary treatments are available at London Heathrow Terminal 5 (5A South, 5B and Arrivals lounges).

Business Class Lounge access

BA galleries lounge business t5

There are actually 3 Business Class lounges to choose from at Heathrow T5. 2 in the A Building, and one in the B Satellite Terminal.

If you want a more relaxing experience then the lounge in B terminal is recommended.

The Galleries Club lounges includes hot and cold food, self-serve tea and coffee, an open bar, showers.

The main Galleries Lounge in T5 is the largest of all 3 lounges at T5 consisting of seating for over 800 passengers. It’s located on the top floor of the concourse, above the Galleries First and Concorde Room lounge. This lounge is the most used go business class passengers at T5 and is often very busy.

The food and drink offerings vary, and include sandwiches, pasta, a salad bar, and several varieties of wine, champagne on request.

Comparison & Conclusion

The First Class lounges at T5 win “hands down” between First and Business class.

The Concorde room is Iconic in style and luxury. Galleries First to a slightly lesser extent but still excellent.

Include into the mix a Free 15 minute Elemis Spa treatment for First Class passengers, the Business Class Lounge experiences do not come close to the offerings of First.

First / Business Class Priority Boarding

BA First Class priority boarding

First Class:

Priority Group 1

First Class Passengers

Executive Club Gold members

Oneworld Emerald members

Business Class:

Priority Group 2

Business Class Passengers

Executive Club Silver members

Oneworld Sapphire members

Comparison & Conclusion

First class passengers or known officially as Group 1 always board the plane before Business Class.

To board the plane first before any other passengers will always be a Perk. In reality we are talking about a difference of less than 5 minutes until Business class passengers board. 

Due to the First class cabins comprising of a limited number of seats, its not long before Business class boards and can be literally a matter of minutes behind.

First vs Business Class Cabins

Ba first class cabin

As above,  First Class Cabins will always feel more intimate due to the lesser amount of seats installed.

Some First Class Cabins consist of only 8 seats, that’s a lot of space.

These cabins will always look & feel spacious and in general provide a better ambience. Privacy and comfort are of paramount importance within First Class Class have been designed with this in mind.

Also, First class cabins will general have a higher standard of fittings, lighting, seating and facilities. 

However,  this is where the New BA Business Class Suite cabins being installed on a Series of brand new A350 aircraft are starting to make people ask again “First class vs Business Class – which is better now”?

Ba Club Suite seat

The “New kid on the block”, the British airways Club Suite has the usual critics of BA eating their words.

The new BA Club Suite layout is more like a First class cabin. As an additional benefit, the club suite has a door encasing you in your own private suite, no BA First class product offers this benefit.

In fact, most people once seeing the pictures of the new BA Club Suite are asking how can First Class on the same carrier beat this new product?

The One Horse Race has a new Contender now!

First Class Seats

BA First class seat 777

There’s no beating a First Class Seat. You get comfort, style, privacy and all the latest tech. 

The space provided to just one First Class Seat can almost be as much as 2 normal seats on the same plane. In fact, if you like a window seat, how about having two Windows to look out of. 

Fancy your own wardrobe, you get that in First. Fancy a large screen flat TV, yes you guessed it..

A BA First Class Seat reclines into a fully flat bed by controls within your space. A standard BA First Class seat in Pitch ranges from 73 inches on the 787-9 all the way up to 79 inches on the 747-400. 

Width of a First Class seat is on average 1-2 inches wider than a standard Business Class seat.

You also receive improved degrees of recline compared to Business Class,  Electric seat controls to adjust recline position, legrest and lumbar support & Laptop Power Ports.

BA Business Class Club Suite Seats

BA Club suite seat a350

Now, this is where it gets really interesting.

If you take a look at the picture above of the new British airways Club Suite Business Class seat, you will probably notice some similarities to BA First Class seats.

Like with First Class you are now getting a very personal, large space with BA Business Class. It’s a suite unlike with First class. 

You get a door to fully enclose you in own personal space, you do not get that with First class. 

You receive a brand new seat designed with comfort and styling in mind. You get a wardrobe area just like First, side storage compartments, just like First. 

New, large flat screen TV’s, I won’t go on…

Comparison & Conclusion

In comparison, the new BA Club Suite seat is as close as it could get to First Class without being called First.

Where as First Class still has the edge in the sheer amount of personal space, there is not much in it now in comparison to the new Business product.

The seat, privacy, Technology, comfort and style is hot on the heels of First Class. In fact, many people are now questioning the existence of British airways First Class with the new Club Suite about to be launched.

First Class Dining vs Business Class Dining

British airways First Class dining

Now, First Class dining starts to pull back out In front in the Race again.

First Class dining offers simply the best in airline quality of food & drink.

All First Class passengers of British airways receive Breakfast, mid morning meals, lunch, afternoon tea & Dinner servings. 

Main meals are accompanied by delicious starters, whilst the cabin crew prepare your selected main course. Followed by tempting desserts and or the finest cheese platters, accompanied by seasonal fresh fruit and the finest chocolate.

All passengers can also choose their preferred meals in advance by logging into their British airways executive club account and selecting which meals they would prefer on their flights.

BA First Afternoon Tea

BA first class afternoon tea

If your lucky enough to be flying in the afternoon you will be receiving afternoon tea on board.

This consist of finger sandwiches served on bone China plates, cream tea including scones, jam and clotted cream.

Champagne is served at afternoon tea to compliment a pot of tea served alongside.

British airways Business Class Dining

BA Business Class food

BA Business class now offer a new service concept was recently launched in Club World which will see the cabin crew hand running most meals or using new carts.

You will have to order your starter at the same time as no longer are service trolleys in the cabin. Starters and desserts are now chosen from the new carts in the cabin. 

Expect 3 Course lunches & dinners. Breakfasts, mid morning & afternoon snacks. 

All dining options are served up in bone China with real cutlery.  

Comparisons & Conclusions 

BA First Class once again wins this one. You simply receive a better class & standard of dining than in Business Class.

To receive afternoon tea including Champagne wins the race by lengths.

BA First Class vs Business Class Amenity Kits

BA First Class Amenity kit female
First Class Amenity Kit Female

Once again BA First Class wins.

The First Class BA amenity kits come in two forms, Male & Female. 

The BA First Class Amenity kits are made by Liberty of London containing high class, superior quality contents. What is unique also is how they supply Male & Female versions. 

First Class Amenity kit male mens

The Male Liberty amenity bag contains Refinery’s revitalising moisturiser, lip balm, deodorant stick and shave gel as well as a razor, brush and comb, toothbrush/toothpaste, eye mask, socks, ear plugs and pen.

The Female Liberty amenity bag kit includes Aromatherapy Associates triple rose renewing moisturiser, hydrating hand lotion, renewing cleanser and deodorant stick, along with a lip balm, cotton wool pads, toothbrush/toothpaste, hairbrush and pen.

BA Business Class Amenity Kit 

BA Business Class white company amenity kit

The BA Business Class product supplies all passengers a new White Company amenity kit. 

The BA Amenity kit contains Flight Socks, Eye mask, Ear plugs, Pen, Toothpaste and toothbrush,White Company Spa Relax pulse point, White Company Spa luxury lip balm & White Company Spa Restore gentle moisturiser.

The updated version of the BA Business Class Amenity Kit on Long Haul flights was certainly a step up from the previous Elemis shoe bag style kit. 

BA First Class vs Business Class Service

Ba cabin crew

All British airways First class flights have dedicated cabin crew to look after all first class passengers requirements throughout their flight.

First Class has atleast 2 dedicated cabin Crew to every First Class per flight.

Business Class

All British airways Business class flights have dedicated cabin crew to look after all Business class passengers requirements throughout their flight.

The difference between First & Business Class will be that the crew serving Business Class will also share responsibilities serving other passes in other cabins on the same flight.

Another Win for First Class…

First Class vs Business Class Prices

First Class

 

BA First Class price

 

BA First Class prices

To fly British airways First Class from London Heathrow to JFK will cost per person at the cheapest rate we could find on the particular date when we searched – £3434.00.

Learn how to Fly British airways First Class for only 40,000 Avios points + £27.50 by clicking here >> BA First<<

Business Class (New BA Club Suite)

The new BA Club Suite Business Class flights on the A350-1000 is only scheduled to fly on certain routes later on this year, so finding availability at present can be Tricky.

However, we discovered these amazing BA Club Suite flights, Return for only £1398.00 PP.

Read our full Review on this amazing fare by clicking here >> BA Club Suite <<

BA Club suite price

BA Club suite prices

That’s a difference of £2036.00 per person, return.

That is enough in savings between First class vs Business class fares to be able to Fly two people in the New BA Club Suites and still save £638.00.

Is paying £2036.00 per person to gain the benefits of First Class vs Business Class worth it?

Final Comparisons & Conclusions – First Class vs Business Class

First Class vs Business Class BA

To put it simply, British airways First Class is an outstanding product and especially when flying from London Heathrow.

From the outset, being able to select your favourite seats at the time of booking for Free through to arriving at the airport.

Being treated like a V.I.P as soon as you enter the First Wing, going through security is like a breeze and then on to those amazing lounges including the Iconic “Concorde Room” to fine dining and high end drinks.

Boarding first before any other passengers to a spacious, luxurious cabin to sitting down on a seat bigger and comfier than any other on the plane.  

How can First Class be Beaten?

BA First Class bed

In short, you can’t beat BA First Class by another BA product. 

However, when it comes to cabins and seating, the new British airways Club Suite launching soon on the A350-1000 aircraft is getting pretty close to the same product in First Class but at a fraction of the cost.

The cost difference between the two products is immense. As stated in our article, you can fly two people in the Club Suites towards First and still have a cool £638.00 in the bank.

Rumors are also circulating that BA may look to reduce the amount of aircraft with First class installed in the future.

Is this why British airways has launched such a great new Business Class product with its Club Suite? 

Will the new BA Club Suite replace First Class on many routes in the future?

Ba Club Suite seat

Who know’s at this stage but BA are definitely upping their game at last after enduring countless years of criticism of an aging long haul business product in the form of Club World.

We hope you have enjoyed reading our article today, we would love to read your comments on this topic First Class vs Business Class.

We will leave you with some questions.

Which is better in your opinion – BA First or BA Club Suites?

Will BA get rid of First Class in the future?

How to Fly British Airways First Class – 40,000 Avios Points + £27.50

Fly British airways First Class – 40,000 Avios Points + £27.50

British Airways First Class is up there on most people’s “Bucket List” of flights to take atleast once in their lifetime!

The problem with flying British airways First Class are the eyewatering charges.

Desirable flights usually come with undesirable costs these days…

Fear not, you can actually fly British airways First Class for as little as only 40,000 Avios Points + £27.50 taxes from London Heathrow. This flight would usually cost you one way, per person £3249.00.

Before you think 40,000 Avios + £27.50 for BA First Class , yeah right.. This must be an upgrade charge from paying for a full fare in Club world.

Your wrong, this is no Upgrade charge. This is a full British Airways First Class fare from outbound to final destination.



What do I get when Booking British Airways First Class?

Instant Seat Selection

BA First Class 777

At the Point of Booking your First Class tickets, all passengers automatically receive accessibility within their British airways executive club account to select which seat they prefer to be seated in within the First cabin. 

Now, this may not sound much of a Perk to many but on British Airways, First Class fares are the only flights that you can select your seat at the time of booking or after for Free.

The only other way passengers flying on BA can select seats at the time of booking will be either paying to select your seat, using avios points or if you are British airways Silver / Gold Status Member.

To be able select your own seats at the time of booking is a definite perk, its no fun sitting next to a stranger for the duration of your flight.

This for me is one of the best Perks of flying BA First Class.

First Class Baggage allowance

BA World Traveller plus baggage allowance

 

 

 

First Class passengers receive a very generous baggage allowance. This includes per passenger:

Adult

3 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)

Children (2-11)

3 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag) + Up to two items selected from the following:

Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)Car seat Travel cot Carry harness

Infants (under 2)

1 bag (max. 23kg / 51lb) + Up to two items selected from the following:

Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)Car seat Travel cot Carry harness

Hand luggage

1 handbag/laptop bag (max. 23kg / 51lb and up to 45 x 36 x 20cm / 18 x 14 x 8in) plus 1 additional cabin bag (max. 23kg / 51lb and up to 56 x 45 x 25cm / 22 x 18 x 10in)Infants (under 2)1 cabin bag for items required during the flight (max. 23kg / 51lb and up to 56 x 45 x 25cm / 22 x 18 x 10in)

British airways First dedicated Check-In (First Wing)

British airways First Class check-in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With British airways First Class flights from Heathrow, all passengers get to use the new dedicated First Wing.

The First Wing at Heathrow airport starts every first class passenger off on their journey experience in comfort, style & luxury.

You are greeted at the entrance by British airways hosts of the first wing which are always available to provide the upper most levels of standards of service. Flying first class on BA, you are the most valued customer.

The first wing has been designed to offer all customers optimum levels of privacy, comfort and luxury. With curved, fluted designed walls as you enter with premium finishes throughout. The new first wing was redesigned to be 250% larger than the original dedicated zone including a more spacious seating area, armchairs, marble- topped side tables and refreshments on hand. 

The First Wing always provides dedicated, open check-in areas fully staffed at all times to ensure the customers check-in experience is seamless and fast and efficient as possible.

First Wing Dedicated Security Lane

BA First Class security Heathrow zone

Once booked through the dedicated check-in zones within the First Wing, customers are guided to a new, spacious security channel. This security lane is designed with passengers in mind to ensure a speedy journey in privacy.

Once through the security zone, you simply scan your boarding passes and enter a corridor leading to one of the very best airport lounges in the world.

These include the Galleries First Lounge and the amazing Concorde Room.

Heathrow British airways First Class Lounges

BA galleries first heathrow




British airways Galleries First lounge

The British airways Galleries First lounge at Heathrow is an elegant, luxurious sanctuary away from the hustle and bustle of the main terminal. The entire lounge is filled with luxury upholstered furniture, armchairs, sofas, tables you will never not find a quiet, relaxing area to unwind in before your departure.

The Galleries First lounge also included work areas to catch up on business or meetings in quiet and comfort. All the necessary equipment is on hand within the work zones including internet access via Wi-Fi, copiers & printers, all complimentary to passengers.

Enjoy table waiter service with full dining options which also included pre-Flight dining options available after 8pm and some selected U.S flights after 6pm.

Concorde lounge sign.

The Concorde Room

The Concorde Room at Heathrow is Iconic and known worldwide for its elegance and timeless style.

With Private dining booths including waiter table service including a-la-carte dining menus.

If you need to catch up on work before your flight, enjoy the privacy of the business rooms whilst sitting in a real Concorde seat.

Heathrow First Elemis Spa treatments

BA first class Elemis spa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All Passengers flying from Heathrow airport on British Airways First Class receive a complimentary 15-minute Elemis spa treatment. For First Class passengers the treatments can be booked in advance up to 28 days or 48 hours before departure.

Complimentary treatments are available at London Heathrow Terminal 5 (5A South, 5B and Arrivals lounges).

Appointments can be made on the day when you arrive in the lounge by asking at the Spa reception desk for availability.

First Class Priority Boarding

BA first class boarding

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All passengers flying British airways First Class along with BAEC Gold, OneWorld Emerald members receive priority boarding under a class called Group 1 found on your boarding passes.

This results in First Class passengers being called up at the departure gates to board the aircraft first before or all other classes of travel including Business, Premium Economy & Economy passengers.

BA First Class Cabins

BA FIRST CLASS CABINS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All First Class Cabins received a refresh and refurbishment a few years ago. The window seats now have electronic adjusted window blinds which span across two Windows. 

Newly installed in-Flight entertainment screens and systems and some with new upholstery inc new First Dining menu’s.

First Class Dining

British airways First Class dining

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All First Class passengers of British airways receive Breakfast, mid morning meals, lunch, afternoon tea & Dinner servings. 

Main meals are accompanied by delicious starters, whilst the cabin crew prepare your selected main course. Followed by tempting desserts and or the finest cheese platters, accompanied by seasonal fresh fruit and the finest chocolate.

All passengers can also choose their preferred meals in advance by logging into their British airways executive club account and selecting which meals they would prefer on their flights.

First Class Service

BA first class service

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All British airways First class flights have dedicated cabin crew to look after all first class passengers requirements throughout their flight.

BA First Class Afternoon Tea

BA first class food

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your lucky enough to be flying in the afternoon you will be receiving afternoon tea on board.

This consist of finger sandwiches served on bone China plates, cream tea including scones, jam and clotted cream.

Champagne is served at afternoon tea to compliment a pot of tea served alongside.



BA First Class Drinks

British airways First Class champagne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

British airways First Class serve some of the finest drinks available on flights in the world today.

Champagnes & sparkling English wines include:

Canard-Duchêne Charles VII Champagne and Champagne Jeeper Brut Grand Rosé in British Airways First Lounges

Gusbourne, English Sparkling Wine and Lanson Rosé Champagne in British Airways First Class.

An extensive list of premium spirits and beers, soft drinks are all available on board.

Fly British airways First Class for 40,000 Avios + £27.50

BA First class seat 777

Hopefully the above sections have “Wet your appetite” to really want to experience British airways First Class now.

Now as per the screenshot we have supplied below, you can see that flying British airways First Class can cost as much as £3284.00 one way, per person on this special route in Europe.

BA First Class Heathrow to Moscow first class

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you have now seen the eyewatering prices that BA charge to fly in First and that is just one way, per person you can appreciate what an outstanding deal this really is.

To only have to use 40,000 avios points plus £27.50 in taxes works out amazing value and you wont find better out there. 

Later in this post we can teach you how to earn that amount of avios points for under £20 with a few tips and tricks utilising a credit card introduction bonus point offer which will also allow you to earn a 2-4-1 voucher so you could take someone with you on this First class flight.

The proof below for you!

BA First Heathrow to moscow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

London Heathrow to Moscow

Now, Moscow may not be on everyone’s Top 10 List of places to visit in the world but to be able to experience BA First for such low amounts of avios points and taxes cheaper than a take-away, its certainly worth a trip to Moscow atleast once in your lifetime.



How to collect 40,000 avios points for less than £20.00

British airways American Express card vs BA Amex Premium Plus card

 

 

If your not already aware, American Express in the UK offer some extremely generous sign up bonuses when you take out one of their point earning cards.

To be able to collect 40,000 avios points, and as an extra bonus of a 2-4-1 Companion voucher which is enough to to fly you and a partner on BA First Class to Moscow, you will need to take out the British airways American Express Premium Plus card.

The British airways american express premium plus card offers new customers as a sign up bonus of 25,000 avios avios when you spend £3000 in the first three months of taking the card out.

But you still need 15,000 more avios points to fly this British airways First class route..

British airways Amex companion voucher

To collect the 2-4-1 BA Amex Companion Voucher the requirements are you need to spend £10,000 within 12 Months.

If you spend £10,000 within 12 Months of taking out the BAPP Card , you will receive the benefits detailed below:

  • 25,000 avios points when you spend your first £3000. (26,000 click our Links)
  • Spend another £7000 and receive a free 2-4-1 Companion Voucher
  • Every £1.00 spent on the card earns 1.5 Avios points – £10,000 spent = 15,000 avios points
  • 15,000 + 25,000 avios = enough Avios to fly One Way in First Class.

You said for less than £20.00…

The British airways American Express Premium Plus card costs £195.00 in annual fee’s.

However, this card comes with refundable pro-rate fee’s so if you have large purchases to make which could total £10,000 in your first month,  you will only be charged the pro-rate fees approximately £16.00 for the month.

You can then wait to receive the confirmation of your 2-4-1 Companion Voucher which can take approximately one week then cancel the BAPP card.

This will result in a refund of 11 months of your annual fees back to you to your account.

However, there is catch!

The catch is not connected with receiving the avios points, but paying the tax element when using your 2-4-1 Companion Voucher.

American express have a rule that to pay for any taxes applicable when using the voucher, the taxes have to be paid using an American Express card. It does not have to be card you received the voucher on but any Amex card. 

The solution we have found to this small issue would be to downgrade the BA Amex Premium Plus card down to fee free British airways American Express card & keep this card forever like we do.



We have written an in-depth review on both the BA Amex cards, click here to read our full review > BA AMEX CARD REVIEW <

The Verdict / Recommendations 

Most people who are very lucky only get to fly British Airways First Class maybe once in their lifetime.

Now almost anyone can experience BA First using our Tips & Tricks!

The Heathrow to Moscow route is the only one flying a long haul aircraft with a First cabin installed providing customers the full experience from Concorde lounges to fine dining.

Just to remind you how to get the avios points & take your partner on this journey for free.

BA PREMIUM PLUS AMEX CARDIf you click this Link Here > British airways American Express Sign Up Bonus < and navigate to the British airways Premium Plus Black AMEX CARD, you will earn the additional Bonus Avios offer of 26,000 avios or alternatively CONTACT US.

As an additional Bonus, once your signed up, you can add a Supplementary Card holder to your account earning an additional 3,000 Bonus Avios Points = 29,000 Avios Points in total.

Instructions – How to get the extra additional Bonus Avios Promotion

Once you click through the link above or click > Here <, search towards the bottom of the page displayed until you see a list of all Amex Cards.

Your looking for the Black American Express British Airways Premium Plus as per the image below.

Ba amex premium plus card
Click on the Button “Learn More” which will take you to the application page for receiving the additional avios sign up bonus of 26,000 Avios.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

American Express have recently updated the Terms & Conditions relating to Customer Sign up Bonuses.

If you have held an Amex Point earning card in the last 24 months, Amex will no longer credit to your account the generous sign up bonuses unfortunately.

Using the lucrative BA Amex Card sign up bonuses, you too could be flying soon in British airways first Class!

If you have any questions or would like to leave us your comments, please leave a comment below.



How to Use AAdvantage Miles to book Qatar / Etihad Business & First Class 2019

How to Use AAdvantage Miles to Book Qatar / Etihad Business & First Class Flights 2019

Today, we look at How to use American airlines AAdvantage Miles to book Partner airline flights like Qatar / Etihad Business & First Class using the minimal amount of points & taxes. In this article we research in detail the process of booking Premium class routes using AAdvantage miles,  Tips & Tricks and the Pitfalls of the AA Search availability tool. 

airways-A380 business class



Book Qatar & Etihad Business / First Class using AAdvantage Points

Firstly, if you’ve found this page and not started collecting American airlines AAdvantage  miles yet, we have written another post on how to collect large amounts of AAdvantage Miles fast by clicking here – Collect AA Miles 

American airlines AAdvantage frequent flyer miles scheme is open to anyone to join, even if you never fly AA.

American airlines is part of the largest alliance in the world called the OneWorld alliance which includes airlines such as British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Airlines, LATAM, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Qatar Airways, Royal Jordanian, S7 Airlines & SriLankan Airlines. 

Being part of such a large alliance certainly has its benefits, especially when it comes to collecting & spending loyalty miles on other alliance airlines.

Today we will centre our attention on redeeming AA miles on Qatar & Etihad airlines. If your not already aware, Qatar & Etihad have some of the best Business or First Class products out there.

Qatar have recently launched the amazing Q-Suite Business product below.

Qatar Q Suite Business Class
Qatar Q-Suite Business Class

Or the outstanding Etihad First Class apartment below…

Etihad A380 First Class Apartment
Etihad A380 First Class Apartment

Both these amazing products sell for anything between £4000 – £8000 return. However, these same seats can be booked in the business class product for as little as 85k AA points return depending on your departure & destination points or 125k in First Class return per person. 

Below, we have attached the AAdvantage miles redemption chart.

AAdvantage Miles chart

We have just booked Qatar in Business Class from London to the Maldives for 42.5k AA miles each, one way. The cash ticket price for this one way fare was £6228.04 for a total of 85k AA miles plus £452.00 in taxes.

The taxes are higher flying from the U.K due to the APD charges but are compensated by considerably lower taxes on a return journey. 

Unfortunately the Qatar A350 flight with Q-Suites installed from London was not available on our chosen dates so we booked Business Class on the A380 instead, seat pictures below.

Did we forget to mention the bar area with the “help yourself to £100 a bottle of Champagne”….

Qatar a380 bar area

Just a little bit better than British airways Club World…



We managed to accumulate 85k AA miles through the Amex SPG Credit Card bonuses for the both of us and other routes as covered in our previous article.

How to Book Qatar / Etihad using AAdvantage Points

Once you have signed into your AAdvantage account, simply use the search flights facility on the home page making sure you check the Redeem Miles box.

AA home page redeem miles

 

You will then be served on the following page the option to select which flight class you require, Economy / Business or First Class. 

This page also displays the amount of AAdvantage Miles required in each class of seat. 

 

 

As you can see above, one way from London to Doha is 42.5k AA miles per person in Business Class, this is the same amount of miles to fly on two legs from London to the Maldives stopping to change planes in Doha. 

Now you click on Continue to be served on the following page a list of results of flights on your chosen date and class of cabin as below.

 

AA redemption results

 

We used this process and successfully booked our flight from London Heathrow to Male airport in the Maldives in Business Class on the A380 / A330.

When you book your flights on partner airlines using your AAdvantage account, you do receive an email confirmation of your booking but it’s not guaranteed at that point.

AA reserve your booking issuing what they call a “Certificate” but have to wait for the partner airline to confirm the booking. This process can take up to 24 hours to be confirmed by the partner airline, your AA account will display your booking as “On request” at this stage.

AA redemption on request

When your flights have been confirmed by the partner airline, the status in your account automatically changes to “Ticketed” and you will receive an updated email confirmation.

Only when you see that your flights are Ticketed is when your flights are booked and confirmed.

After 24 hours our booking was still not “Ticketed” and still stating “On Request” in our account and no confirmation booking email received. If you find yourself in this situation you need to do call AA Customer Services.

In reality anything that goes wrong in connection with your booking can make it not process correctly to Ticketed. In our case, something went wrong with our payment for the taxes by credit card even though no restrictions were placed on our card and all the correct details were entered at the payment screen.

These errors are not common and another IT issue for customers to deal with. In theory this could ultimately result in your flight not being booked. If you have any concerns just simply pick up the phone Customer Services like we did, the payment was taken again over the phone and within 10 minutes our flights were Ticketed and confirmed.

Now for our Return Journey (The Pitfalls of AA Redemptions)

With over 20 x results displayed in front of us for our requested Return Flights from the Maldives Male airport to London Heathrow, we thought this was going to be a Breeze with so many flight results.

What we didn’t know at the time of searching availability using the AA site were that the results displayed, isn’t all it seems…

It appears there maybe an IT issue connected to the displayed results, this is what has been named as the AA award availability “Phantom Listings“. Phantom listings on the AA site are flights displayed as available, when in fact they are not.

Even if you wait until 12.00am on the earliest available date, 330 days out from your preferred dates of flying, seat awards may still not be available as we discovered. When we clicked on the displayed results, each one came back as not available.

Now we were getting a bit nervous, will we be able to get a return flight?

How to find availability on AA using other airline search facilities

There are various ways of checking the real availability of flights using American airlines AAdvantage miles.

British airways Executive Club

These include using the British airways Executive Club account and searching availability through that account instead. The British airways results displayed for your chosen dates are actually available and can be booked.

If you come across availability on the BA account site but not showing as available through your AAdvantage account, you will need to call the AA reservations line quoting the Qatar flight numbers and times. AA Customer Services will be able to book your flights over the phone for you. 

Qantas Site Search Facility

Using exactly the same process as the British airways executive club account search, you can use the Qantas site to search availability as both airlines are in the OneWorld alliance and serve up the same availability.

You will need to be members of both accounts before you can search availability, both airline accounts are free to join.

Unfortunately, even after using the AAdvantage site search, British airways executive club and the Qantas site search facilities, our return flights required were not available on Qatar airlines unless we choose a flight consisting of 30 x hours with a day stop over in Doha.



How did we book our return flights using AAdvantage miles?

This is when other airlines within one alliance like Oneworld can save the day.

Our initial plan included using Qatar for our return flights as it was easy to just click a few buttons in our AAdvantage account and all our flights would be booked.

This wasn’t to be, so now onto “Plan B”…

We searched for our flights again but this time using a generic flight search tool like Google flights. Making a mental note of other alliance partner airlines, we discovered that Etihad also flew from MLE to LHR up to three times per day.

Plugging in our flight requirements into the Etihad Guest site, we were looking for availability using Etihad points. You need to navigate to the main Etihad site but look for the link to Etihad Guest. You do not need to be logged in to view availability of Etihad flights.

We were looking for availability on our chosen dates under “Guest Business“. Guest Business is the terminology for Business award flights availability using Etihad points. Availability was wide open on our preferred date with the first flight of the day being 5 hours less in flight duration.

Unfortunately, you cannot book Etihad award flights within your AAdvantage online account so you need to call the American airlines Reservation line to book using Etihad award availability flights.

I have read many comments online that you need to call the Reservations lines outside of your country to book AA award flights on Etihad airlines. We found just calling the U.K American airlines reservation line, details found here –  to absolutely work fine, our agent knew how to book all partner airline flights.

You need to have all the flight details, dates & times and the Etihad flight numbers to hand when calling the reservations line. After about 5 minutes, our return flights on Etihad were all booked.

One point to note if you book Etihad flights over the phone with AA, ensure you receive the Etihad Reservation reference from the booking agent. You will need this reservation reference to locate your bookings in the Etihad site enabling you to select your seats. 

Just another slight issue we faced..

When we logged into the Etihad site and entered our reservation number, we were only able to select seats for the person who booked the fare. After numerous attempts to select my wife’s seats I decided to call the Etihad Customer services line, they quickly reserved our seats on all flights so we were seated together on both legs.

Etihad a380 business suite seats
Etihad A380 Business Suite Seats

 

The result was booked flights on the Etihad A388 / A380 in Business Class which would have cost £5492 all for 85k AA miles plus £113.80 in taxes.

Total cash price for all flights for 2 x persons – £11,702.04 

Our Verdict / Recommendations

Update: You can now book Etihad Business & First flights through the AAdvantage website instead of needing to call up an AA agent to book.

Apart from the few issues we experienced along the way, the final result was a series of amazing business class flights on some of the best airlines in the world. 

The total price for our outgoing and incoming flights would have cost us in cash £11,720.04 which in reality cost us only 170k AAdvantage Miles + £565.80 in taxes.

All this for 170k AAdvantage miles which can easily be achieved by taking out two SPG Amex Credit cards and utilising other routes to collect AA miles we have highlighted in our previous article.

If you fancy Business / First class flights on some of the world’s most luxurious flights using minimal amount of points and small amount of taxes, simply follow our step by step guide in this article.

If you have any questions, please leave a comment and we will always reply.



British Airways First Class Flight cheaper than Business Class?

British Airways First Class cheaper than Business Class?

Today we stumbled upon this unbelievable deal on British Airways.

Fancy flying to the Seychelles on British Airways in First Class? Now you can fly in First Class cheaper than in Club World.

BA First Class LHR – SEZ

The Screenshot from my British Airways app shows £2535 for One Way, Per Person from London Heathrow (LHR) to the Seychelles (SEZ) in Club World.

The Second Price on the Right displaying £2531 is for First Class tickets. Yes, we couldn’t believe it also, BA First Class cheaper than flying in Business Class..

At the time of Posting this deal it was correct and fully bookable, but be quick as fares like this do not hang around for long.

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