British Airways Club World vs Premium Economy 2019

British Airways Club World vs Premium Economy 2019 Review

Today, we tackle one of the most commonly asked questions by flyers and attempt to cover all the facts on British Airways Club World Business Class vs BA Premium Economy in our Review in 2019.

Discover the difference’s here between BA Club World Business Class & Premium Economy. We cover in our Review below the difference in Seats, Dining , Lounge Access, Priority Boarding, Drinks, Amenity kits, In-flight Entertainment & Costs in 2019 between the two cabin classes.

British airways club world seat
British airways New Club World Seat A350

British Airways Club World 2019 Review

BA announced to the Media in 2019 that a new Club World Business Class Suite was due to be launched on the brand new A350 aircraft. This was welcome news to frequent flyers as most Business Class cabins had not been updated for many years now.

However, before you get too excited looking at this beautiful new BA Club World offering, bear in mind this seat is currently only installed on the A350 aircraft. Depending on what route your flying, you may be very lucky to have the pleasure of experiencing the new Club Suite.

The downsides are only a few aircraft at present have this new Business Class Suite product installed so your more likely to experience one of the older Club World seats below which are still excellent in our opinion.

BA Club World Seats

BA Club World Seat A380 above & 777 Below.

BA Club World Seats 777 2019 Review

British Airways Club World Business Class Seats

All Business Class Club World seats offer the facility to lie fully-flat making a fully horizontal bed for all passengers.

Seating in CW are positioned in a few different layouts depending on the aircraft. Some are positioned in a 2-4-2 layout where you receive 2 seats on the outside of the aisle next to the windows, then 4 seats in the middle and then a repeat of the 2 outside aisle seats next to the windows on the opposite side.

Business class seats are also positioned so one seat faces backwards whilst the accompanying seat faces forwards. In the middles seats the outside seats can face forwards and the middle pair face backwards.

On the newer 787-9 aircraft Business Class consists of 2 outer seats and 3 middle seats with one facing the opposite direction.

Alongside offering you a fully lie-flat bed seat, you receive a Branded pillow, White Company bedding including a mattress topper and a luxurious super soft blanket. By placing the mattress topper down on the seat when flat, we found this to be comfortable enough to get a decent nights sleep.

We also discovered that the White Company bedding blanket supplied was adequate to keep us warm when the aircraft became cold especially on overnight flights.

British Airways Club World Business Class vs BA Premium Economy

To enable a seamless bed sleep experience, you need to utilise the retractable footstool so when both the seat are fully engaged in the horizontal position and the footstool is horizontal, these both provide a flat bed platform which is long enough for most people even at 6ft or 183cm.

The seat pitch of all British Airways Club World Seats are an average of 52″ long, add the footstool when in the horizontal position to the end of the flat seat adds another 20″ of length for a combined seat length of 72″ in total.

Complimentary Lounge Access

BA Business Lounge Access 2019

All BA Business Class passengers receive complimentary access to BA Lounges or OneWorld alliance lounges throughout the World. From experience we have found the lounges on offer out of London to be a good standard offering free food & Drinks in a relaxing atmosphere.

However, lounges in other countries run by OneWorld alliance partner airlines can be a hit or miss affair. To receive complimentary access to lounges is certainly a great benefit both outbound / Inbound.

Business Class Priority Boarding

Club World priority boarding
Club World Priority Boarding

All Business Class Passengers receive priority boarding. Depending on your ticket class you will be requested to start to board the plane before Premium Economy & Economy passengers but after First Class passengers if that cabin is installed on your flight.

We always find Priority Boarding a nice feature as you enter the plane with a limited number of passengers enabling you enough time to accustom yourselves to your cabin and be seated before the main bulk of passengers enter the aircraft.

Dedicated Business Class Check-In Zones

BA Club World check in 2019

British airways Business Class passengers receive access to dedicated check-in zones at all airports in the world which speed up your journey through the airport to security.

Your luggage will be attached with a Bright Orange luggage label stipulating the luggage is priority and your luggage is sorted and returned to you faster at your destinations.

BA Club World Business Class Checked Baggage allowance

All Adult Passengers of British airways Club World receive a generous baggage allowance of 2 x 32kg checked in luggage per person.

Business Class Hand Baggage allowance

All Club world customers are allowed one piece of hand luggage and one small additional item such as a handbag or laptop on board, both items can weigh up to 23kg each.

Business Class Fast Track Security

After dropping your luggage off at the dedicated check-in zone, you head your way to the fast track security zone which is also part of your package if you fly Club World.

Fast track security at all airports is definitely a benefit in our opinion. Usually you would queue up for between 5 – 10 minutes in long queues at normal security but with Fast Track security you have dedicated areas just for business class passenger speeding up the process.

BA Club World Seat Facilities

Retractable Tray Table 

BA Club World tray

Not only do you receive a very spacious 52″ long seat pitch with a Club World Seat, you also receive the following facilities within your Business Class seating area.

Fully retractable & collapsible tray which stows away sideways when not in use. This retractable tray folds out sideways providing enough space to hold a dining plate, side plate, bread basket and drink comfortably. The retractable tray is also large enough for all Business passengers to catch up on work during the flight with enough space to adequately hold a large laptop and most associated extras.

In-Flight Entertainment System

BA Club World ife

Most British Airways Club World Seats have now been updated to receive the latest In-Flight Entertainment systems on board. The latest updated IFE systems incorporate touch screen controls with a large library of either movies, documentaries, music, audible books, games and episodes from the most popular series. 

The IFE systems can also be controlled from a wired controller which is housed when not in use next to your seat as per the picture below. The controller is beneficial when wanting to play the installed games.

We also experienced recently an upgraded version of your real time flight mapper which displayed in 3D your route, your exact location in the world and views from the rear of the plane.

Noise Cancelling Headphones

BA Club World noise cancelling headphones

Business Class Long Haul cabins also supply good quality noise cancelling headphones to all passengers. These are hard wired at present but passengers will expect Bluetooth connectivity in the near future. 

Noise cancelling headphones on a long haul flights are essential to drown out the background noise from the engines and to emerge yourself in a good movie when on a long flight.

White Company Amenity Kits

BA Club World white company amenity kit

The White Company Amenity kits are upgraded from the old style Elemis shoebag style amenity kits previously offered.

The new amenity kits come in a leather effect small, zipped bag in black containing comfy flight socks, eye make, white company small moisturizers and lip balm, toothbrush and toothpaste.

Overall this new amenity kit is better than the previous elemis kit and slightly better quality.

Club World Business Class Dining & Complimentary Drinks

Club World dining options in the past have come in for some heavy criticism from fare paying passengers. From tough, jaw breaking steak offerings to bland chicken dishes.

What is a pleasure to review were the most recent 2019 Do & Co updated dining menus featured on our last flight.

BA have “upped their game”, listening to passenger complaints of the Business Class Dining options and introducing new menus on board.

Firstly, all Club World passengers receive a menu to choose from a varied selection of starters, mains, desserts and drinks. These Menu’s are made from thickened paper and fold open to display all options available. These menus make the experience of dining special as it feels like your ordering food in a restaurant. 

Club World Dining menu
Club World Dining menus

Passengers can experience a full three course dining experience with either Alcohol or non alcoholic drinks to accompany each serving. Complimentary Twinings Tea and Union roast coffee are also served and a bread roll of choice with either Butter or olive oil.

As an example, on our last flight a few months ago we opted for Sea Trout as our mains as below and a delicious Seafood starter.

Desserts:

On this occasion we opted for the delicious Cheese board consisting of various award win in English cheeses, grapes, dried Figs and quality crackers to accompany.

My wife opted for a Chocolate pudding on this occasion which included a sponge centre.

BA Business Class 777 dining

Club Kitchen Facility

BA Club kitchen 2019

Business Class passengers also receive access to the Club Kitchen facility. This Comprises of a dedicated area which holds refrigerators full of soft drinks, water & wines. Above there are also storage areas which hold baskets full of Chocolate, Crisps and sandwiches on occasion. 

We found the Club Kitchen to be a useful addition to the service enabling us to grab a snack I feeling peckish on a long flight.

Club World Cabins

BA 787 9 CW cabin

Most of all the British Airways Business Class cabins have had an update / refresh recently. On the newly refreshed CW cabins you will experience mood lighting which softly illuminates the ceiling lines. Seat panels, trays, Sid panels, window lights and segregation walls have all been replaced with new and classy looking colour schemes and corporate logos. 

This refresh provides customers a feeling of a classic British look with neutral colour palettes  and clean lines.

BA Club World Cabin Crew Service

BA cabin crew

Business Class Cabins all receive a number of dedicated cabin crew on-board. For our most recent flight we noticed atleast four dedicated cabin crew members serving passengers in CW.

In our experiences you can receive either a very good cabin crew experience or not. On some flights an excellent service and other flights not so good. On average we experience a fast and polite service which is above average.

British Airways Club World Q & A’s

What does club world mean on British Airways / What is BA Club World?

BA Club World on British Airways is the official name for its Long Haul Business Class Service. Including an extra passenger experience you will receive extra luggage allowance, dedicated check-in zones, Fast Track security, Lounge access, Priority boarding, Lie-Flat seats, Three Course dining, snacks, Complimentary Tea & Coffee and alcohol.

Is British Airways Club World same as business class?

Club World is British Airways Business Class Service on all long haul routes in the world offered to premium passengers. 

What is a Club World seat on British Airways?

Passengers flying BA Business Class Club World will receive on every flight a fully Lie-Flat seat. This seat measures 183cm long and when used inconjunction with the footstool makes a fully horizontal bed seat.

Does BA give free food?

BA supplies all Premium class passengers such as Club World or Premium Economy ticketed fares free food & refreshments. Economy passengers may find that some food and drinks are payable. Business Class passengers will be offered a three course meal at least twice per flight & additional snacks.

What is the difference between BA Club World and First Class?

First Class passengers on BA receive First Class lounge access, extra luggage allowances of 3 x 32kg. Dedicated First class cabins including a larger seat and personal space. A finer Dining experience than Club World including afternoon tea on some routes.

British Airways Premium Economy 

BA Premium Economy vs Business Class review

To introduce BA Premium Economy to any flyers not familiar with the product, we will start with what you do receive in Premium Economy incomparison to Club World. 

BA Premium Economy Seats

BA Premium Economy seats

The Seats in Premium Economy are slightly wider than in Economy but narrower than in Business Class.

The seat is officially 18.5 inch wide, all seats are Reclinable with a footrest and do offer better comfort than Economy when trying to sleep but not fully lie-flat bed seats as in Business Class and do not offer the same level of comfort.

You do get a Blanket & Cushion, Noise cancelling headphones, In-flight entertainment system & a very basic Amenity bag containing an eye mask, toothbrush, toothpaste, Flight socks and earplugs.

The seating layout consists of two outer pair next to the windows, a set of 4 seats in the middle and the same 2 seat outer pair. One bonus in Premium Economy are that all seats face forwards and not some facing backwards like in Business Class.

Premium Economy Dining & Drinks

BA Premium Economy Dining 2019
BA Premium Economy Dining 2019

You do get as standard two meals and complimentary drinks on board. The in-Flight dining options have been improved In 2019 so you do receive a good standard meal and drink. You may receive atleast on snack also during long haul flights and complimentary drinks.

You do receive complimentary sparkling wine, spirits and soft drinks offered throughout our flight duration.

In-Flight Entertainment

The IFE Flat screens are located in the rear of the seat in front of you or if located at the front of the cabin, a swivel, movable small screen attached to the side of your seat. All Premium Economy IFE holds a similar entertainment package as in Club World but not to the same standard.

Cabin Crew Service

BA Premium cabin crew 2019

As in all cabins, you will receive dedicated cabin crew in Premium Economy but some crew are also distributed to assist in other cabins on the same flight.

Checked Baggage allowance

BA Premium baggage allowance 2019

All adults are allowed up to two checked luggage items each in this Cabin class. The allowance per bag is 23kg each bag, per person. This same allowance also applies to children aged between 2 -12 years old.

Hand Baggage allowance

The smaller hand baggage item must not exceed 30cm in height by 40cm in width and not exceed 25cm in-depth. This hand baggage item must be stored under the seat in front of you.

Priority Boarding

BA Premium Economy priority boarding 2019

BA Premium Economy passengers do receive priority boarding before Economy, however you have to wait until all passengers in Club World / First Class have boarded first before your cabin class is called up and you can begin boarding the plane.

British Airways vs Premium Economy Comparisons

Using all the information above on both cabin classes, we will now set out the real differences as a comparison.

With Premium Economy as a comparison towards Club World Business Class you will not receive the following extras included.

  • No Dedicated Check-In Zones
  • No Fast Track Security access 
  • No Complimentary Lounge access
  • No Lie-Flat Seats
  • No White Company Amenity Kits
  • No additional meal services and additional free Alcohol including Champagne 
  • No Priority departure off the aircraft at your destination.

Dedicated Check-in zones are a nice feature as you queue up in a less busy environment rather than waiting in lines with the hundreds of Economy passengers. Average time saving approx 15 minutes.

(You cannot purchase dedicated check in)

Fast Track Security is another nice to have feature and probably saves on average 10 minutes.

(You can purchase fast track security at most airports, prices start at £5.00 per passenger, each way)

Complimentary Lounge access is a definite plus. To be able to relax in an environment away from the busy crowds in the main terminals whilst enjoying free alcoholic drinks, soft drinks, Tea & Coffee. Receive complimentary food & snacks whilst reading a free newspaper or magazine whilst sitting in a comfy ranch overlooking the runway.

You can purchase lounge access at most airports but you cannot pay to access any British Airways Lounges or Lounges run by any OneWorld alliance airline.

(Pay per entry lounges can start at £25.00 per passenger, each way).

No Lie-Flat Bed Seats & Additional Seat Facilities 

We cannot put a cost associated with the difference in seats. Costs associated with a lie-flat bed seat towards a seat that just reclines is personal to the passenger.

Also in Business Class if your seated next to the window, you almost have your own pod of personal space and extremely private. Club World seats also enjoy a much larger personal area of space towards Premium Economy.

Additional Improved meal services and additional free Alcohol including Champagne 

In Business Class you do receive atleast Two 3 Course Premium Dining options per flight and a snack. All Club World dining is served up on Bone China Crockery using Branded Cutlery, drinks served in glassware & China cups.

Free Champagne, good quality Wines & Spirits & extra premium meals will result in an additional cost associated. 

Priority Departure off the Aircraft at your Destination

Priority departure off the Aircraft at your destination is a nice benefit but once again we cannot put a cost associated with this benefit.

No White Company Amenity Kits

The White Company Amenity kit does include items you generally receive in Premium Economy like an eye mask. A few extras like small mositurisers etc Included in the amenity kit would only incur a small additional cost associated.

British Airways Club World vs Premium Economy Cost Difference

As you can expect, there will always be a substantial difference in costs between Business Class & Premium Economy Cabin class. Below we have attached a copy of a Cost Comparison between the two different Cabin classes.

Premium Economy – £718.00 Per Person, One Way. 

Business Class – £1148.00 Per Person, One Way. 

Difference in Cost – £430.00 or 37% Cost increase to fly Business Class.

Its a personal decision if you feel paying an extra £430.00 per person, each way to upgrade to Club World now you have seen the differences between the two cabins.

As an honest opinion, since flying BA Business Class, we would not want to fly in Premium Economy if we had the choice ever again. 

We agree the cost differences can seem excessive at 37% extra but to us this increase is well worth it for the extra comfort, service, meals, drinks & Lounge access. 

Upgrade from Premium Economy to Business Class Cheaper

By utilising a simple Tip using a Credit card Sign up bonus, we can show you how to earn enough avios points to upgrade to Club World for under £100 in Taxes.

American Express offer all new applicants to their Free Gold Rewards Card a very lucrative 12,000 Avios Points when you spend £3000 In three months.

If you look at the example of the amount of avios required to upgrade from Premium Economy to Business Class long haul below, you will see on this route it only requires 20,000 avios points to upgrade.

BA upgrade 2019

The example above uses a higher category long haul route but upgrades can be bagged for 15,000 avios points, check out the chart below.

Avios redemption chart 2019

If you take out the American Express Gold Rewards Card via this sign up link below:

 Amex Gold Rewards Card Extra Bonus Sign Up 

You will receive an extra 2000 avios points, so 12,000 points instead of 10,000.

Spend the required £3000 in the first 3 Months and you will earn 15,000 avios points enough for that amazing upgrade to Club World.

Amex Gold referral bonus 2019

We hope you have found this article interesting and helpful. If you would like to ask any questions or leave a comment, please do so below.

Seychelles Mahe Airport Business Lounge 2019 Review

Seychelles Mahe Airport Business Lounge 2019 Review




If your flying out of Mahe airport in the Seychelles on Business / First Class, you will be provided complimentary access to the Salon Vallee De Mai lounge.

The Seychelles Mahe (SEZ) Business Class airport Lounge actually belongs to Air Seychelles but shares accessibility with other many other airlines including British Airways.

Before we get going, I’m not impressed with most of the lounges in Premium locations in the world and the state of their only Business / First Class lounges. If you think of the Maldives & the Seychelles, you immediately think Premium and expensive destinations.

Then why not invest in providing high paying customers a decent lounge experience?

So to this day, it still bewilders me why the only lounges on offer at these airports are basic, lack decent food / drink offerings & lack that certain level of comfort expected of these premium locations. People can pay anything up to £8,000 for British airways First class flights from London & all you receive are a very basic lounge for your inbound experience, this is the same from Male airport in the Maldives which I didn’t even bother writing writing review on, it was that bad.

Locating the Seychelles Mahe airport Business Class Lounge

Seychelles airport business lounge

After checking in your luggage, you take a left and walk towards a double set of doors which lead to a security zone. Once through security you take a set of stairs up to the first floor and take a left again.

Past some small souvenir / duty free shops and at the end of the level you will see rather unique looking entrance to the Air Seychelles Business / First Class Lounge behind a set of obscured glass doors.

The Seychelles (SEZ) Mahe Salon Vallee De Mai lounge Business / First Class lounge provides access to passengers flying on Air Seychelles, British airways, Emirates, Qatar, Sri Lankan, Kenya, Ethiopian, Austral, Turkish, Condor, Austrian & Air France.



As you enter through the automatic, sliding glass doors you check-in at a large wooden reception desk to your right. For some reason they appears to have three uniformed sat at reception for a lounge that probably holds 50 passengers at maximum capacity.

To your left, a self service food & drink area with a centre island containing breads,toaster, jams, a hot food container with bacon / sausages and a bread board with some cake.

Seychelles business ba lounge

Around the perimeter another self serve area with drinks either soft or alcoholic. Under counter refrigerators holding more drinks with above coffee / Tea dispensing machines, cups & saucers, plates, cutlery & glasses.

Various cereals, pastries, milk, fruit & condiments along the countertop. Surrounding the kitchen area there were various chairs, tables for passengers to sit and eat.

Sez Mahe airport lounge

The rest of the Seychelles Business Class Lounge consists of different areas with seating, some with fabric armchairs, leather sofas and wooden chairs & tables.

Towards the rear of the lounge contained an area of armchairs, sofas and a large wall TV screen which sometimes departure / arrival information displayed.

Seychelles airport British airways lounge

The flooring is all wooden throughout the lounge with matching dark wood tones throughout, neutral wall coverings, window blinds & some planters to add to the jungle hut look.

One set of toilets serve the entire lounge, these were kept clean during our visit and smelled of citrus oils.

Seychelles airport business lounge

To the Centre area of the lounge contained two small areas of brightly colored yellow then grey armchairs and wooden tables. Supporting, decorative wooden beams appear to designate certain zones and beams on the ceiling all add to the ever familiar dark wood tones throughout.



To the perimeter of the lounge were Windows overlooking the runway. The most interesting thing i found to look at in this lounge was our plane, the British airways 787-9 Dreamliner parked awaiting loading.

Our review of the journey can be found here ->British Airways 787-9 Club World <-

Seychelles business ba lounge

All the tables & chairs were taken when we arrived in the lounge next to the Windows so we got to sit in the coloured armchairs in the middle.

To be honest, there is not a lot more to say about this lounge. I’ve added a few more pictures below before my round up and conclusions.



Conclusions / Recommendations

The Seychelles Mahe airport Business / First Class lounge in our opinion ticks the Boxes in the basic lounge category just like the lounge at Male Airport in the Maldives.

These types of lounges appear to have minimum amounts of Money invested in them and are almost appear an afterthought for Premium passengers. Why not invest and make the lounges something to remember when you leave your Paradise location rather than leave a negative impression of the beautiful location you’ve just visited?

Back to topic, this lounge provides the basics of food, drink and comfort whilst awaiting your departure flight. It appeared clean and tidy, food was limited but luckily we knew it would not be long until our airline would provide a proper meal.

It is nice to receive complimentary lounge access on our flights wherever we fly. I would not be happy paying for lounge access to this lounge and would not recommend it unless free to access.

This review is the shortest i have ever written, I hope you found something of interest here and found it informative if not a little negative (Sorry). 

Please feel free to leave a comment below of your experiences of the Seychelles lounge.



British Airways BA 787 9 Review 2019

British Airways BA 787 9 Review 2019

The British airways 787 9 “Dreamliner” is one of the newest & most advanced aircraft introduced in 2015 into BA’s long haul aircraft fleet being able to hold up to 216 passengers.

Is Boeing 787 9 The Dreamliner?

The 787 9 Dreamliner aircraft is exclusively made by Boeing and on British Airways they consist of 4 class aircraft covering First Class, Business Class, Premium Economy & Economy cabins.

What type of plane is a 787 9?

The Boeing 787 9 aircraft is a wide body aircraft primarily used for long haul routes. This aircraft can travel at up to 650mph and reduces noise pollution by up to 60%. Latest pressurization technology allows passengers to arrive at their destination feeling less fatigued.

british airways 787-9 seat mapThe First Class cabin seats have been reduced to only 8 seats from 14.

Club world (Business class) consists of 42 seats with two separate cabins.

Premium economy (World Traveller Plus) consists of 39 seats.

Economy ( World Traveller) consists of 127 seats.

The British airways 787-9 Dreamliner is 20% more fuel efficient than other similar sized aircraft.

The 787-9 travels at Mach 0.85, or about 650 miles per hour.

The Windows have been made to be 30% larger than similar sized aircraft.

The 787-9 Dreamliner use’s an advanced pressurisation system onboard resulting in cabin altitude reduced towards other aircraft. This technology enables passengers to land in their destination feeling more refreshed. (Read on to find out our experience of this).

The Business Class (Club World) product features New touch screen In-Flight entertainment systems, White Company mattress toppers & blanket.

Noise reduction headphones, seat USB & 3 Pin plug power sockets, fully lie-flat seats, newly improved dining options, fully dimmable window controls & footrest.

Our British airways 787 9 Business Class Experience

We booked our British Airways, Club World seats on the 787 9 “Dreamliner” almost ten months prior to departure. The cost of our flights from London Heathrow to the Seychelles Return for 2 x people would of cost us, if paying by cash approximately £7000.

To pay for our flights, we used 200k Avios Points (Peak) & a 241 British airways American Express Companion Voucher – Our review can be found by clicking here – >BA Amex Premium Plus Card <, plus £1150.00 in taxes saving us approx £5850.00.

If your not already aware, with British airways Business Class flights you receive complementary lounge access at your departure airports, Dedicated check-in areas, Priority Boarding & Fast track security.

To read our experience of the three different BA Business Class lounges at Heathrow Terminal 5 before our departure – Click here > British airways Business Class Lounge’s Terminal 5 Review <

Heathrow Terminal 5 Boarding Gate Review

After 2 hours of experiencing all three of the BA Lounges accessible to Business Class passengers in Terminal 5, we made our way to our departure boarding gate area C.

As we arrived at departure gate C, we observed one area surrounded by mid height glass walls containing a number of seats. Noticing a number of passengers seated we took a seat awaiting any update to our boarding information.

After a 10 minutes of not hearing any priority boarding announcements for our flight, we decided to seek out assistance. What we discovered was that located behind our waiting area, partially obscured by a lift shaft was our boarding gate zone.

This area was separated into three lanes, sign posted at the start of each lane by small signage depicting First / Business Class passengers, Premium Economy & Economy lanes. What we observed whilst queuing were lots of economy passengers clogging up the priority boarding lanes and being turned away by the BA staff for being in the Priority boarding lane.

After a few minutes waiting, our boarding passes were scanned & Passports checked and we made our way down a tunnel to our awaiting aircraft. 

Boarding the British airways 787 9 Dreamliner Business Class Cabin

 

BA 787 Business class cabinOur boarding passes were checked once again on entry and a Cabin crew member directed us left into the “Mini” Club World Business Class cabin (Rows 6 & 7).

The “Mini” Club World cabin is situated directly behind the First class cabin and consists of only two rows of business class seats & 14 seats in total. The “Mini” section is separated by a bulk head containing the cabin crews kitchen area, club world snack bar, refrigerators and toilets. Behind the bulkhead consists of another 4 rows of Business Class Seats containing 28 seats.

The BA 787-9 Dreamliner Club World cabins has a layout of two seats on the outer rows next to the windows. These two seats are positioned in a “Ying Yang” style so the window seat faces backwards with the adjoining aisle seat facing forwards.

The middle seats contain 3 Business Class Seats layed out with the outer seats on the aisles facing forwards and the middle seat facing backwards. Due to the middle seat sandwiched between the outer two seats, this has unfortunately been given the nickname “The Coffin Seat” as pictured below.

British airways 787-9 Club World coffin seat

Unfortunately, the layout with seats facing backwards in BA Business Class cabins means that some passengers have to step over other passengers feet when the footrests are in operation.

This is one drawback of the existing Club World layout but newer aircraft such as the A350-1000 being introduced into the BA fleet in 2019 have overcome this problem by completely redesigning BA Business Class and introducing “Suites” with doors.

We choose Row 7, seat J & K as our preferred option. My choice, 7K Window seat was chosen due to being located facing the bulkhead wall resulting in me not having anyone to step over other passengers feet. 

 

787-9 Club World row 7 seat k

On first impressions entering the 787-9 Business Class cabin we were very impressed. The interiors in Club World look modern with shades of Grey & Beige with silver trims. Blue Mood lighting illuminated the ceiling lines underneath the storage lockers. 

The carpets looked clean and not worn and the general cleanliness of all surfaces were of a high standard. 

The “Mini” cabin has an intimate feel to it and a great view into the First class cabin which did not look much larger than Business.

Already placed on my seat as i arrived was a White Company mattress topper & blanket & a large BA logo pillow with a set of noise cancelling headphones.

One observation we made were that the windows in our cabin were all blacked out as we arrived, it gave a surreal feeling as if you were in a tunnel on a train. After being seated i decided to play around with the touch controls for my Windows and discovered that you had to alter the settings to daylight. These new window touch controls are a vast improvement on the old style shutter system. 

BA 787 window touch controls

Not long after being seated a very friendly BA Cabin Crew member handed out hot towels to us to refresh with and a glass of Champagne & bottles of water. Located under the In-Flight entertainment screen compartment a smart, swivel style retractable tray is also housed.

British airways white company amenity kit

All British airways Business Class Club World passengers now receive an updated White Company amenity kit containing an eye mask, flight socks, toothpaste & toothbrush & various moisturisers on every flight.

The In-Flight entertainment system is an updated version with full touch screen controls or by using the remote control situated next to your seat. The IRE screen folds neatly away when not in use into its housing. I found a new 3D version of the flight path route map installed along with a comprehensive selection of Movies, Documentaries, Music, Games, News & audiable books.

After about 20 minutes we were offered any drinks we selected from the Club World menu handed out. I decided to give alchohol a miss on this occasion and opted for a soft drink mixer called a “Fizzberry” which contains a mixture of Fever Tree tonic water, Cranberry juice, ice & a slice. This was served up in a chunky mixer glass with a bowl of spiced nuts, both were very good.

BA Club World non alcoholic drinks

Not too long into our flight time, approx 40 mins since departure we were handed our Club World Dining menu’s. We had a mixed experience of British airways Business Class Long Haul dining on our last flight from Gatwick to Male (Maldives) Review found by clicking here ->BA Club World Gatwick to Male Review <- so we waited with anticipation of the newly improved CW dining experience. 

We ordered off the Club World dining menu.

Starters:

Smoked Chicken Terrine with a Pickled Ginger / Samphire

Mains:

Sea Trout with crushed new potatoes, roasted root vegetables, Lemon cream sauce.

Dessert:

Cheese board with Grapes / Figs.

Wine, soft drinks or Water was offered to accompany our meals.

 

Wow, what an improvement on our previous Club World Dining experience on the 777-200.

The starter was tasty with unusual accompanying flavours from the pickled ginger / samphire.

The mains in my opinion was very good, especially for Fish served on an airplane. The crushed new potatoes were delicious, root vegetables especially the carrots held a good flavour and the lemon cream sauce was delicious.

Since our last British airways Club Europe short haul Business Class experience earlier this year, Review found by clicking here ->BA Club Europe Review<-, I decided to once again sample the excellent Cheese board. This consists of quality, British cheese’s such as Coastal Cheddar / Somerset Brie, biscuits with Grapes & dried Figs.

As an overall opinion, I would rate this Club World meal at an 8 out of 10.

On our return flight back to London we choose the following Club World Meals:

BA Club World mezze board

Starters:

Mezze board consisting of roasted Aubergine, peppers tomatoes, hummus, halloumi cheese. This starter was OK, a little bland in places & very cold.

Mains:

Club World king prawn curry

The King Prawn curry was very light in flavour with the sauce without much punch. The rice was cooked well but due to the lack of sauce be a a little dry. The King Prawns were toast though with roasted peppers.

Dessert:

Chocolate pudding with a sponge base.

BA Club World chocolate dessert

A bit cold once again and lacking flavour.

Overall Meal Rating: 6 out of 10.

The British airways 787-9 Club World Lie-Flat Seat

The BA Business Class seats on all long haul flights have the ability to completely Lie-flat resulting in a bed style seat.

In order to lie flat on the Club World seat, the footstool needs to be positioned horizontal first, this action results in the final section of your lie flat seat bed. The actual seat needs to be operated by controls located in the separation panel to position your seat flat which then meets the footstool to make a connected horizontal platform.

With a horizontal platform to work with, we used the new White Company padded mattress topper, blanket & pillow as our bedding. The padding on this plane’s Club World seat was comfy so adding the new bedding made the experience of sleeping pleasurable.

I managed to catch a few hours of sleep on this flight which is unusual for me as I usually cannot sleep on planes even in Business Class.

Club World 787-9 Storage Trays, IFE Controller, Seat adjustments

The Club World seat comes with useful, additional such as a storage drawer located under your foldaway tray / IFE at floor level. The storage drawer is large enough to hold a laptop, headphones, menus etc and comes in very handy when you want to store your tray away.

BA 787 drawer

The IFE  controller is located me to your seat housed in its own compartment. The ergonomics are slightly weird as you have to twist to take the controller out of its housing. The IFE Controller is duo sided, one side with shortcut buttons and the rear do using with on screen gaming. The controller is attached by wire and retracts back into the housing.

BA 787 IFE controller

The Business Class seat has its own electronic controls situated in the separation wall housing, Containing three separate adjustments, one controls angle, one control controls the back section of the seat and one adjusts height.

The seat also has two power points, one is USB & 3 Pin Socket, handy if you need to recharge your tablet, smart phone or laptop.

BA 787-9 Dreamliner Business Class Observations / Recommendations

In our opinion the British airways 787-9 Dreamliner is a definite improvement on the older generation of aircraft in use such as the Boeing 777.

Just to fly in an aircraft less than four years old is like riding in a newish car, unfortunately though, no new plane smell.

The interiors are crisp with a different colour shades and mood lighting really compliments the cabins. The electronic, adjustable window shades are a nice feature.

Some people appear to think the 787-9 seats in Club World are cramped for some reason, we didn’t find this to be the case especially after flying then previous same seat on the 777. I can seem why people may not like the new middle seat (Coffin) as to me that looked a little claustrophobic sandwiched between two outer seats.

The Catering has certainly improved at BA since a year ago. Overall we would rate our meals fairly highly but always appear to receive a lower standard of meals on our return journeys. This is probably down to the logistics of catering in other countries, we still do not understand why you cannot pre-order your mains for return journeys on BA?

Overall we would highly recommend using the 787-9 in Business Class if you can, keep an eye on the regular British airways world sales as the Seychelles do pop up regularly with good prices for flying the 787-9 in Club World.

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British Airways Lounge Heathrow 2019 Review

British Airways Lounge Heathrow 2019 Review

If your not already aware, British airways at Terminal 5, Heathrow airport has three BA Business Class lounges in total spanning across two buildings.

What’s most surprising is that many passengers flying Business class out of this Terminal mostly only know of two lounges based in building A, and not the in our opinion the best British airways lounge located in Building B.



Can I pay to use the BA lounge at Heathrow?

The eligibility of entry to any of the British airways lounges at Heathrow airport consists of passengers required to be flying on British Airways in Business class / First Class either in Long Haul Club World or Short Haul Club Europe. Passengers cannot pay cash to access any BA Lounge.

Can I access BA lounge if not flying BA?

Passengers not flying on any British Airways cabin class above will not be allowed entry to any lounge run by BA or other OneWorld alliance at Heathrow. Passengers cannot pay cash to access any BA Lounge.

Eligibility is also granted to these lounges if a passenger is flying on any OneWorld alliance aircraft in Business Class or hold either British airways Silver / Gold executive club status.

Entry to any of BA lounge’s throughout the world cannot be purchased like other lounges that you can either Pre buy your entry online or pay at the door to access.

Our Personal Experience’s of all the BA Business Class Lounges at Heathrow, Terminal 5

We cant stress enough in this game that research, research & more research is so important in order to make your journey as painless as possible and along the way hopefully add a bit of luxury & relaxation before you start your BA flight.

That is what we done before flying out of Terminal 5 and boy are we glad we did our research as we discovered a real Gem in the rough. we are talking an oasis of calm and tranquility with a touch of luxury in an otherwise extremely chaotic terminal 5 in only one BA lounge out of three located at T5.

Our BA Lounge Experience starts here…

BA Business Class Club 787

Ten months ago we our booked British airways, Club World Business Class flights departing from Heathrow Terminal 5 to the Seychelles.

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We had not flown out of London Heathrow Terminal 5 for many years now and always remembered our last experience of this terminal to be somewhat chaotic and extremely busy with passengers.

That’s is why its known as one of the busiest Terminals in the world.

Also, our last journey departing from T5 on British Airways consisted of us flying BA Premium Economy so we did not experience the pleasure of complementary BA Business class lounge access back then as you do with Club World.

We started our research way back last year on all the lounges we could access at Heathrow ,Terminal 5 with our Business Class eligibility.

Our research discovered that we could gain entry to three lounges spanning across two buildings at T5 (North & South).

Where is the British Airways Lounge in Heathrow?

Heathrow consists of many terminals but to find the British Airways Lounge in Heathrow T5 you need to pass through security then up the escalators in Building A, South. Then to locate the 2nd lounge travel to Building A, North. A third British Airways Lounge in T5 can be located in Building B, South.

With notes on the locations of all three British Airways Business Class lounges in our back pocket we started our lounge experiences in T5 Building A. 

British Airways Business Class Galleries Lounge Terminal 5 Building A, North

BA British airways business class galleries lounge terminal 5 heathrow

This was the first BA lounge on our list to access. After fast track security we arrived in Building A at Heathrow Terminal 5.

To locate the BA Galleries Business Class Lounge in Terminal 5 North, Building A you need to walk past most of the shops towards the lifts or escalators. We used the escalator on this occasion with signage depicting the location of the BA Business class Galleries lounge, North.

Travelling up the escalator to the BA Galleries Business Class lounge we viewed the famous Black Horse statue as a light on the landing level & a large model of a British airways aircraft before entering the Galleries Lounge. 

Arriving at the Check in area to the BA Galleries Business Class lounge, North we noticed two check in desks staffed by British airways personnel.

At this stage we noticed already many passengers queuing to access this lounge which should of acted as a warning sign to us already of what was to come!

Entry was swift with the scan of our boarding passes at check in, we ventured forward past the British airways separation panels obscuring the view of the main lounge entrance behind.

This is when the reality kicked in, this particular lounge is extremely busy probably due to we think it being the “Galleries Lounge” as the “Galleries” name is used for other British airways lounges throughout the world. Maybe people head for the Galleries lounge first out of the two located in Building A.

As you enter you can either turn left to a large seating zone with Windows surrounding the entire area. Immediately facing you as you enter a large magazine / newspaper rack with the toilets located behind.

To the right a self serve food & Drink area with a limited amount of cold & hot foods on offer, tea and coffee machines, refrigerators containing cold drinks and a counter top area containing water / wines on ice.

BA galleries club world T5 Heathrow lounge

We grabbed a glass of water and looked further down to the right from the food & drink area and for as far as the eye could see we viewed lots of seating areas but extremely busy with most Seats already taken.

This is unusual for us to experience such a busy lounge and to be honest it did not appeal to us so for the first time in our lives we decided to leave rather sharpish.

In our personal opinion an airport lounge should be somewhere to relax, grab a bite to eat and maybe enjoy a glass of wine / Champagne before a long flight. Not a place to fight for personal space and have to virtually to sit right on top of other people whilst feeling lucky to find something to eat and drink.

This is the reason why we stayed all of five minutes in this lounge, so onto the next Business Class Lounge in Building A.

Let’s hope the next lounge is much better, read on to find out…

British Airways Business Class Galleries Lounge Terminal 5 Building A, South

BA Business Lounge Terminal 5 south

To locate the British airways Business Class Lounge building A, South you make your way through security and once in the main terminal head up the escalators.

Once at the top of the escalators look to the right handside and you will see the entrance to the BA lounge.

After our previous experience in the BA lounge in Building A, North we were expecting a much improved lounge and facilities from British Airways. With anticipation growing we checked in at reception and with greater expectations we walked through into the main lounge area.

Then suddenly as the main walkway opened up our greatest fears once again grew quickly into reality. This cannot be true, what we viewed before us was even worse than the Galleries Lounge in Building A, North we had just come from. 

BA Business Lounge Terminal 5 south food area

This main self serve food and drink area was busy, dirty with food scraps observed on the floor and rammed with people sitting on bench style seating right next door.

The entire lounge spans across one side of the terminal with Windows to most sides. It is large with numerous areas of seating. All seating areas looked very crowded with hardly any spare seats left. We decided to not bother with queuing for any food or drinks and made our way to the left side of the lounge to more seating areas.

One positive we noticed about this lounge was the facilities to take a shower with an assistant available to provide clean towels. 

BA Business Lounge Terminal 5 south food area

The main seating areas consist of comfortable armchairs, leather tub chairs and sofas. Round tables and side tables some with sidelamps.

There was another area to serve yourself coffee, teas and beverages with a selection of pastries, biscuits etc. One seating area was separated by a wall of wine bottles, very similar In design as the BA Business Class Galleries Lounge at Gatwick airport – Review found here – BA Business Lounge Galleries North Gatwick.

We made our way to the only available seating area consisting of armchairs and sofas next to the windows overlooking the runways. We literally had to walk to the end of the lounge to find seating space on a sofa for two people. That was an indication of how many people were actually in this lounge on a Wednesday afternoon and not during any school term holidays or peak season.

We observed during our visit what looked to be atleast 200 passengers in this lounge at that given time. Once seated with a cup of tea we were greeted by a friendly member of staff handing out free mini tubs of ice cream which was greatly accepted in the hot atmosphere. After our tea and ice cream we decided to make a retreat and find our last lounge located at Building B.

We hoped and prayed the last lounge would be the Saviour of the day and finally allow us some time to sit back and relax before our 10 hour flight. We made our way out of the lounge and asked directions from the Check in staff to the British airways lounge in building B.

British Airways Business Class Galleries Lounge Terminal 5 Building B, South

British airways Business Class Galleries Lounge Terminal 5 Building B

To locate this BA Lounge you have to take the transit one stop from building A to building B or you can walk less than 10 minutes in the underground walkway which spans between both buildings.

We decided to try out the transit on this occasion and once departed we took the elevators up to the first floor where we finally found our last BA Business class lounge of the day. 

As we got to the top of the escalator we immediately noticed how quiet it was here. Where were all the other passengers gone we thought to ourselves?

It was so quiet in this lounge that the reception staff almost looked happy to see us.

Had we finally found our oasis of quiet and calm with a just a hint of luxury? 

The British airways Business Class Lounge located at Building B is what as known as the “Quiet Lounge” to frequent travellers with BA.

As we entered the lounge we could literally count the amount of passengers on two hands. Everything looked clean, orderly with all food items well stocked.

Comfortable seating areas were readily available and the views over parked up planes such as the Iconic British Airways 747 Jumbo made our time extremely interesting here watching 747’s taxing In and out.

We walked up and down the food & drink area, hot & cold foods on offer such as Thai Green curry, meatballs in tomato sauce, potatoes, Indian starters, vegetables, chips and lots more. The cleanliness of the food areas were impeccable and we observed staff constantly cleaning and sweeping & replenishing food trays.



Grabbing a small plate of Thai curry & Indian Starters and a good cup of Union Roast coffee we explored the other seating areas.

Quickly spotting a relaxing space in the corner almost like a booth of two armchairs & side tables overlooking the runway, we finally got to sit down to relax.

Over to our right, we noticed a large separate drinks area with bottles of water / wines & a large selection of spirits on offer. We did notice that no Champagne was out on display unlike the Galleries lounge at Gatwick.

I asked a member of staff and was served two glasses of champagne, delivered to our seating area with a smile.

BA Club World lounge champagne

We really cannot say enough how pleasant this particular lounge is towards the other BA lounges in Building A.

We counted approximately 30 x passengers during our two hour stay here, it really is a secret lounge in our opinion.

Maybe BA passengers cannot be bothered to travel to a separate building to experience another lounge or simply at not aware of the quiet lounge. That’s fine by us as this is our No.1 lounge of choice now out of Heathrow T5 and would prefer it to stay almost the secret lounge.

BA Club World lounge Terminal 5 Building B

I headed out to explore other areas of the Building B, lounge and discovered a Business area consisting of PC’s, printers and a large TV displaying World news.

Adjacent to the Business area another large seating area of sofas, armchairs and a very well stocked drinks area with a large stock of wines. 

BA business lounge Terminal 5 Building B

Even a separate area for kids to entertain themselves with game consoles, Televisions etc called the “Kids Zone”. Designed to give parents and other passengers some peace & quiet.

BA business lounge kids zone Terminal 5 Building B

A few more pictures of the BA Business lounge in Building B..

Our Conclusions / Recommendations on the British Airways Lounge at Heathrow.

After enduring the pain of two overcrowded, dirty and unpleasant British airways Business Class lounges at Heathrow, Terminal 5 we finally found one lounge which served all our requirements. 

All we ask for in a lounge is somewhere to sit in relative comfort and quiet. To relax and enjoy some nice Food and Drinks whilst awaiting our flight departure gate announcement.

Is this too much to ask of BA?

With Heathrow airport being BA’s home hub we expected more from them to be honest. Maybe more staff and facilities in the other two lounges would make the experience better.

Maybe it’s just the sheer amount of Business Class passengers flying out of Heathrow, T5 and two lounges being located in the same building leads to the oassenger overcrowding.

Building B, BA’s Business Lounge in our opinion winds hands down of all the three lounges on offer in T5.

In this lounge you can relax and take in all the wonderful views of the runway, grab a bite to eat and enjoy a good spirit or glass of Champagne or two before your flight.

Yes, Building B is not easy to find on foot, having to take the transit one stop maybe too much hassle for most passengers. But If you can be bothered to spend 5 minutes of your time to find a lounge which offers all you should receive before your flight we strongly recommend seeking out the British airways Business Lounge, Heathrow Terminal 5 located in Building B.

We hope you have found our Review interesting & informative.

We would love to hear your views and opinions on the BA Lounges at T5, please leave your opinions and comments below.



 

British Airways First Class vs Business Class 2019 Review

British Airways First Class vs Business Class

2019 Review

A Flyer question pops up regularly and that is, “British Airways First Class vs Business Class – which is Best?”

Now, from the outset it would appear that the answer would be a “No Brainer” for most – First Class obviously…

With lots of variables to compare between the two Cabin classes, you may be surprised to hear that its not always a “Done Deal”.

Today we will take a look at British airways First Class vs Business Class and put out there the facts and conclude by the end, in our opinion which is best.

You may be surprised by our findings and this article may challenge the opinions of many..

British Airways First Class Review 2019

is first Class better than business in ba

What can we say, First Class is always going to better, is it not?

In general, you are correct but what happens when the same airline brings out a ground-breaking new Business Class product which puts out there the question again on most people’s lips – First Class vs Business Class – which is better?

Got you thinking?..

Let’s take a look at the British airways First Class product now and we will let you decide.

From the outset, we need to compare both products so we will start with BA First Class at the Booking stage of any flight and the benefits included.

BA First Class Seat Selection

BA FIRST CLASS CABINS

BA First Class:

All First class fares include for free seat selection at the time of booking 

BA Business Class:

Business Class does not include seat selection for free at the time of booking  ×

BA First Class Checked Baggage Allowance

BA Business baggage allowance

First Class
Adults and young adults (from 12 years) 3 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)
Infants (under 2) 3 bags (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness
Infants (under 2) 1 bag (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness

Business Class

Adults and young adults (from 12 years) 2 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)
Children (2-11) 2 bags (max. 32kg / 70lb per bag)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness
Infants (under 2) 1 bag (max. 23kg / 51lb)

plus

Up to two items selected from the following:

  • Fully collapsible pushchair (stroller)
  • Car seat
  • Travel cot
  • Carry harness

 

  • First Class adult passengers receive 1 extra 32kg checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.
  • Children in First Class also receive 1 extra 23kg checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.
  • Infants in First Class also receive the same checked baggage allocation in comparison to Business Class.

Comparison & Conclusion

As stated officially by British airways, First Class passengers receive 1 extra 32kg of checked baggage per adult & children. 

Yes, we agree any additional checked baggage allowance is better to have more, but do any passengers actually need any more than 2 x 23kg of checked baggage each?

Its a nice to have but in reality, how many First Class passengers actually use the full allowance 3 x 32kg allowance each is what we ask ourselves!

British airways First vs Business Class Lounges

airways concorde room heathrow

Today we will look at as a comparison the BA First Class & Business Class lounges at Heathrow.

First Class Galleries Lounge

The First Galleries lounge at Heathrow consists of 4 areas with various seating areas such as dining featuring tables and a self-service food area, a terrace space and a champagne bar.

Food options as stated above include self serve or waiter service from the a la carte menu. A Business centre featuring all necessary equipment to continue with business whilst awaiting your flight departure.

Champagne in Galleries First is self serve so you can help yourself to as much as you want. Other location within the lounge consists of a wide and high standard of other drinks available

Food is available all day during opening hours.From fully cooked breakfasts to a selection throughout the day or indulge in afternoon tea selection.

The Concorde Room

BA Concorde room heathrow

The Concorde Room at Heathrow is Iconic and known worldwide for its elegance and timeless style.

With Private dining booths including waiter table service including a-la-carte dining menus.

If you need to catch up on work before your flight, enjoy the privacy of the business rooms whilst sitting in a real Concorde seat.

Elemis Spa Free Treatments

BA first class Elemis spa

All Passengers flying from Heathrow airport on British Airways First Class receive a complimentary 15-minute Elemis spa treatment. For First Class passengers the treatments can be booked in advance up to 28 days or 48 hours before departure.

Complimentary treatments are available at London Heathrow Terminal 5 (5A South, 5B and Arrivals lounges).

Business Class Lounge access

BA galleries lounge business t5

There are actually 3 Business Class lounges to choose from at Heathrow T5. 2 in the A Building, and one in the B Satellite Terminal.

If you want a more relaxing experience then the lounge in B terminal is recommended.

The Galleries Club lounges includes hot and cold food, self-serve tea and coffee, an open bar, showers.

The main Galleries Lounge in T5 is the largest of all 3 lounges at T5 consisting of seating for over 800 passengers. It’s located on the top floor of the concourse, above the Galleries First and Concorde Room lounge. This lounge is the most used go business class passengers at T5 and is often very busy.

The food and drink offerings vary, and include sandwiches, pasta, a salad bar, and several varieties of wine, champagne on request.

Comparison & Conclusion

The First Class lounges at T5 win “hands down” between First and Business class.

The Concorde room is Iconic in style and luxury. Galleries First to a slightly lesser extent but still excellent.

Include into the mix a Free 15 minute Elemis Spa treatment for First Class passengers, the Business Class Lounge experiences do not come close to the offerings of First.

First / Business Class Priority Boarding

BA First Class priority boarding

First Class:

Priority Group 1

First Class Passengers

Executive Club Gold members

Oneworld Emerald members

Business Class:

Priority Group 2

Business Class Passengers

Executive Club Silver members

Oneworld Sapphire members

Comparison & Conclusion

First class passengers or known officially as Group 1 always board the plane before Business Class.

To board the plane first before any other passengers will always be a Perk. In reality we are talking about a difference of less than 5 minutes until Business class passengers board. 

Due to the First class cabins comprising of a limited number of seats, its not long before Business class boards and can be literally a matter of minutes behind.

First vs Business Class Cabins

Ba first class cabin

As above,  First Class Cabins will always feel more intimate due to the lesser amount of seats installed.

Some First Class Cabins consist of only 8 seats, that’s a lot of space.

These cabins will always look & feel spacious and in general provide a better ambience. Privacy and comfort are of paramount importance within First Class Class have been designed with this in mind.

Also, First class cabins will general have a higher standard of fittings, lighting, seating and facilities. 

However,  this is where the New BA Business Class Suite cabins being installed on a Series of brand new A350 aircraft are starting to make people ask again “First class vs Business Class – which is better now”?

Ba Club Suite seat

The “New kid on the block”, the British airways Club Suite has the usual critics of BA eating their words.

The new BA Club Suite layout is more like a First class cabin. As an additional benefit, the club suite has a door encasing you in your own private suite, no BA First class product offers this benefit.

In fact, most people once seeing the pictures of the new BA Club Suite are asking how can First Class on the same carrier beat this new product?

The One Horse Race has a new Contender now!

First Class Seats

BA First class seat 777

There’s no beating a First Class Seat. You get comfort, style, privacy and all the latest tech. 

The space provided to just one First Class Seat can almost be as much as 2 normal seats on the same plane. In fact, if you like a window seat, how about having two Windows to look out of. 

Fancy your own wardrobe, you get that in First. Fancy a large screen flat TV, yes you guessed it..

A BA First Class Seat reclines into a fully flat bed by controls within your space. A standard BA First Class seat in Pitch ranges from 73 inches on the 787-9 all the way up to 79 inches on the 747-400. 

Width of a First Class seat is on average 1-2 inches wider than a standard Business Class seat.

You also receive improved degrees of recline compared to Business Class,  Electric seat controls to adjust recline position, legrest and lumbar support & Laptop Power Ports.

BA Business Class Club Suite Seats

BA Club suite seat a350

Now, this is where it gets really interesting.

If you take a look at the picture above of the new British airways Club Suite Business Class seat, you will probably notice some similarities to BA First Class seats.

Like with First Class you are now getting a very personal, large space with BA Business Class. It’s a suite unlike with First class. 

You get a door to fully enclose you in own personal space, you do not get that with First class. 

You receive a brand new seat designed with comfort and styling in mind. You get a wardrobe area just like First, side storage compartments, just like First. 

New, large flat screen TV’s, I won’t go on…

Comparison & Conclusion

In comparison, the new BA Club Suite seat is as close as it could get to First Class without being called First.

Where as First Class still has the edge in the sheer amount of personal space, there is not much in it now in comparison to the new Business product.

The seat, privacy, Technology, comfort and style is hot on the heels of First Class. In fact, many people are now questioning the existence of British airways First Class with the new Club Suite about to be launched.

First Class Dining vs Business Class Dining

British airways First Class dining

Now, First Class dining starts to pull back out In front in the Race again.

First Class dining offers simply the best in airline quality of food & drink.

All First Class passengers of British airways receive Breakfast, mid morning meals, lunch, afternoon tea & Dinner servings. 

Main meals are accompanied by delicious starters, whilst the cabin crew prepare your selected main course. Followed by tempting desserts and or the finest cheese platters, accompanied by seasonal fresh fruit and the finest chocolate.

All passengers can also choose their preferred meals in advance by logging into their British airways executive club account and selecting which meals they would prefer on their flights.

BA First Afternoon Tea

BA first class afternoon tea

If your lucky enough to be flying in the afternoon you will be receiving afternoon tea on board.

This consist of finger sandwiches served on bone China plates, cream tea including scones, jam and clotted cream.

Champagne is served at afternoon tea to compliment a pot of tea served alongside.

British airways Business Class Dining

BA Business Class food

BA Business class now offer a new service concept was recently launched in Club World which will see the cabin crew hand running most meals or using new carts.

You will have to order your starter at the same time as no longer are service trolleys in the cabin. Starters and desserts are now chosen from the new carts in the cabin. 

Expect 3 Course lunches & dinners. Breakfasts, mid morning & afternoon snacks. 

All dining options are served up in bone China with real cutlery.  

Comparisons & Conclusions 

BA First Class once again wins this one. You simply receive a better class & standard of dining than in Business Class.

To receive afternoon tea including Champagne wins the race by lengths.

BA First Class vs Business Class Amenity Kits

BA First Class Amenity kit female
First Class Amenity Kit Female

Once again BA First Class wins.

The First Class BA amenity kits come in two forms, Male & Female. 

The BA First Class Amenity kits are made by Liberty of London containing high class, superior quality contents. What is unique also is how they supply Male & Female versions. 

First Class Amenity kit male mens

The Male Liberty amenity bag contains Refinery’s revitalising moisturiser, lip balm, deodorant stick and shave gel as well as a razor, brush and comb, toothbrush/toothpaste, eye mask, socks, ear plugs and pen.

The Female Liberty amenity bag kit includes Aromatherapy Associates triple rose renewing moisturiser, hydrating hand lotion, renewing cleanser and deodorant stick, along with a lip balm, cotton wool pads, toothbrush/toothpaste, hairbrush and pen.

BA Business Class Amenity Kit 

BA Business Class white company amenity kit

The BA Business Class product supplies all passengers a new White Company amenity kit. 

The BA Amenity kit contains Flight Socks, Eye mask, Ear plugs, Pen, Toothpaste and toothbrush,White Company Spa Relax pulse point, White Company Spa luxury lip balm & White Company Spa Restore gentle moisturiser.

The updated version of the BA Business Class Amenity Kit on Long Haul flights was certainly a step up from the previous Elemis shoe bag style kit. 

BA First Class vs Business Class Service

Ba cabin crew

All British airways First class flights have dedicated cabin crew to look after all first class passengers requirements throughout their flight.

First Class has atleast 2 dedicated cabin Crew to every First Class per flight.

Business Class

All British airways Business class flights have dedicated cabin crew to look after all Business class passengers requirements throughout their flight.

The difference between First & Business Class will be that the crew serving Business Class will also share responsibilities serving other passes in other cabins on the same flight.

Another Win for First Class…

First Class vs Business Class Prices

First Class

 

BA First Class price

 

BA First Class prices

To fly British airways First Class from London Heathrow to JFK will cost per person at the cheapest rate we could find on the particular date when we searched – £3434.00.

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Business Class (New BA Club Suite)

The new BA Club Suite Business Class flights on the A350-1000 is only scheduled to fly on certain routes later on this year, so finding availability at present can be Tricky.

However, we discovered these amazing BA Club Suite flights, Return for only £1398.00 PP.

Read our full Review on this amazing fare by clicking here >> BA Club Suite <<

BA Club suite price

BA Club suite prices

That’s a difference of £2036.00 per person, return.

That is enough in savings between First class vs Business class fares to be able to Fly two people in the New BA Club Suites and still save £638.00.

Is paying £2036.00 per person to gain the benefits of First Class vs Business Class worth it?

Final Comparisons & Conclusions – First Class vs Business Class

First Class vs Business Class BA

To put it simply, British airways First Class is an outstanding product and especially when flying from London Heathrow.

From the outset, being able to select your favourite seats at the time of booking for Free through to arriving at the airport.

Being treated like a V.I.P as soon as you enter the First Wing, going through security is like a breeze and then on to those amazing lounges including the Iconic “Concorde Room” to fine dining and high end drinks.

Boarding first before any other passengers to a spacious, luxurious cabin to sitting down on a seat bigger and comfier than any other on the plane.  

How can First Class be Beaten?

BA First Class bed

In short, you can’t beat BA First Class by another BA product. 

However, when it comes to cabins and seating, the new British airways Club Suite launching soon on the A350-1000 aircraft is getting pretty close to the same product in First Class but at a fraction of the cost.

The cost difference between the two products is immense. As stated in our article, you can fly two people in the Club Suites towards First and still have a cool £638.00 in the bank.

Rumors are also circulating that BA may look to reduce the amount of aircraft with First class installed in the future.

Is this why British airways has launched such a great new Business Class product with its Club Suite? 

Will the new BA Club Suite replace First Class on many routes in the future?

Ba Club Suite seat

Who know’s at this stage but BA are definitely upping their game at last after enduring countless years of criticism of an aging long haul business product in the form of Club World.

We hope you have enjoyed reading our article today, we would love to read your comments on this topic First Class vs Business Class.

We will leave you with some questions.

Which is better in your opinion – BA First or BA Club Suites?

Will BA get rid of First Class in the future?

How to Fly the Brand New BA Club Suite for only £1398 Return

Fly the New BA Club Suite for only £1398 Return

British airways Long Haul Business Class otherwise known as Club World has certainly come in for a lot of bad publicity recently. The more customer reviews you read, the more complaints you see, “outdated product”, “falling far behind its competition” to name but a few…

Then out of almost nowhere, BA Pulls a “Rabbit out of the Hat” & silence the crowds with two small words, “Club Suite“.

On the 18th March 2019, British airways released to the public pictures on social media of the new BA Club Suite and boy, oh boy were we impressed!

a350 ba club suite



The new BA Club Suite seats are configured in a 1-2-1 layout with at last, direct aisle access.

The lack of direct aisle access has long been one of the major gripes of Club World passengers. The current Club World layout is configured so if your seated in the window seat, you will be stepping over the passengers feet located behind you, not good on the sleeper service.

The reason why the new Business Class product was named Club Suite is down to the fact that it’s actually got a sliding door which maximise’s privacy for the traveller. In fact, the Club Suite door is locked open for take off and landing with the flight attendants releasing the locking mechanism. The passenger will then have the choice of either leaving them open or closed during the flight. 

British airways take delivery of the A350 aircraft featuring the new Business Class Club Suite in July 2019

BA a350 club suites

The new BA A350 aircraft will feature 56 Club Suites in its Business class cabins. Offering 40% more storage than the current Club World product including storage drawers allowing the ease of storing larger items such as laptops or other larger personal items within arms reach.

British airways a350 cs

Also a new for BA, overhead lockers for both the window seats and centre seats.

Within the Club Suite you will find compartmental storage including a vanity unit, mirror and power outlets including USB / PC. With two more storage compartments with lids for ease of storing smaller, personal items on board and another storing your In-Flight entertainment controls.

The design of the new Club Suite features an Otterman seat which has allowed BA to gain permission for passengers to store items underneath during take-off and landing.

The new In-Flight Entertainment system installed features an 18.5 inch HD flat screen to display all the latest films, documentaries etc during flight time. The IFE screen will be fixed in position at all times so no need to keep storing away & will include a secondary hand-held screen & a display on the IFE controls.

The new Club Suite Seats all face forward to the relief of most passengers. It can be a strange feeling facing backwards into the cabin for most flyers. All the centre seats will be installed as standard with privacy screens which are easily movable.

The new BA A350 aircraft have been designed to deliver the optimal air pressure for all passengers. With noise reducing functionality and superior cabin lighting throughout the plane, technology has vastly improved the passengers experience and helps alleviate jet lag.

The Club Suite compartment walls are now 46 inches in height which enables the eye line of the passenger to always see the interior of the suite rather than outside. 

Club Suite seat

When the lie-flat seat is fully flat, this measures 79 inches with a pitch of 44 inches which equates to exactly 7 inches longer than the current Club World lie-flat seat. Instead of the standard seat belt configuration adopted by most airlines, the new suite comes with a double belt configuration similar to a car seat belt design which will only be required to fasten during take-off and landing.

With comfort, privacy and new technology installed, the new Club Suite has quickly become one of the most desirable seats to fly in the world at the moment.

With desirability, usually comes a high price tag attached with new products. However to our amazement, the new Club Suite on the A350 has been included in the latest British airways Sale. We have found a route that the new A350 will fly on for as little as £1398.00 Return.



How to Find that amazing New Club Suite for £1398.00

The route we discovered in the latest British airways sale featuring the new Club Suite on the A350 is from London to Toronto.

The dates include January 2020, see the screenshot below we have attached for the one way A350 Club Suite one way pricing at £794.00.

 

The below screenshot displays the Airbus A350 aircraft on Flight No: BA0093.

 

 

And now for the Return fare, Toronto to London with Club Suites on the Airbus A350 at only £605.00 one way.

 

 

Proof of flight No: BA0093 is the Airbus A350 aircraft featuring the new Club Suites.



 

Total costs for LHR – YYZ Return fare – £1398.00 in the New British airways Club Suites on the A350. 

Our Verdict / Recommendations

What can we say – Brand New Club Suite Seats on the Airbus A350 for only £1398.00 Return, No Brainer…

As a comparison you can usually fly on the current Club World product for upwards of £1000 each way, I know which product I would want to fly given the choice!

With all British airways Sale fares, you need to move quick and jump on these outstanding fares now. Once this information is all over the web, these flights will be gone – Guaranteed.

The new BA Club Suite is in high demand as you can imagine. To find this amazing suite at such a low-cost means it won’t be around for long.

The “Icing on the Cake” with this deal, you will also earn 10,660 British airways avios miles and 280 x Tier Points.

britishairways a350 1000



 

Any questions about this fare or the new British airways Club Suite on the Airbus A350, please leave a comment below.

How to Fly BA Club World Business Class Seats for only £148.00

How to Fly British airways Club World Seats for only £148.00

Have you ever wanted to fly on British Airways or Iberia in Business Class Long Haul seats or but just cannot afford to pay Thousands of Pounds?

To experience BA / IB Business Class or Club World Seats for just £148.00 or £325.24 Return is achievable if you know where to look.

The facts are that British airways & Iberia fly regularly from London to Madrid Return using Long Haul aircraft such as the Boeing 777 / Airbus A340 which consist of Business Class or Club World Cabins & some with First Class Cabins.

These Long Haul Boeing 777 / A340 aircraft are used on these routes regularly to transport Cargo which is a major result for anyone flying in Business. 

If you buy a fare in BA Club Europe or on Iberia Business Class on the correct flights, you will be sitting in Long-haul Club World Seats or Iberia Long haul Business class seats for as little as £148.00 or £325.24 Return.

On the London Heathrow to Madrid route, most of the time you will be flying on the Airbus A320 / A321 aircraft as below.



Ba airbus 320 / 321

But, if you select the correct departure times on the same route, you will be flying on the Boeing 777 / Airbus A340 Long-Haul aircraft below.

Ba 777 club world Heathrow to Madrid club world

Iberia a340 business class

Now lets take a look at the difference in the Business Class seats on the A320/321 & the Boeing 777 / Airbus A340 aircraft.

BA Club Europe Seats A320
BA Club Europe Seats A320/321
BA Club World Seats 777
BA Club World Seats 777

a340 business class seat



British airways Club Europe Seats

Club Europe seats a321 / a320The Club Europe cabin is situated at the front of the plane on all the A320/321 aircraft. The difference between Club Europe Business Class Seats & an Economy seat on the A320/321 are the middle seat is kept free with a tray table. This enables the passengers in Club Europe Seats to enjoy a guaranteed window or aisle seat and more privacy if flying solo or more room to work or relax. 

The seats in Club Europe come with 76.2cm or 30 inch seat pitch with fully movable headrests but are basically the same size as an economy seat on the same flight.

To read our full Review on our last British airways Club Europe Flight, Click Here to read more >BA Club Europe Review<

British airways Club World Seats 777

BA CLUB WORLD 777 SEAT MAP

British airways Club World Seats are all Lie-flat. This enables passengers to lie down flat and sleep in their seat if you wanted, something the Club Europe Seats do not provide.

The Club World Seats come with their own In Flight Entertainment screens and controls fitted, however we believe that these are not operational as Club Europe flights do not provide any IFE on its flights.

You do however get the entire Club World Seat and all its functions as if you were flying Long Haul. This includes power sockets, moveable tray tables, footrest, movable separation panels for privacy, adjustable seat angle pitch by controls set next to your seat.

Due to configuration of Club World, the outer pair seats provide almost complete privacy if seated next to the Window.

All Club World seats when lied flat measure 183cm or 6ft long. With a 20 inch width and 72 inch pitch towards Club Europe Seats at 30 inch seat pitch & 17 inch width.

You can see why if you have the choice between Club Europe & Club World seats on your route, you should definitely opt for the flights with Club World Cabins fitted.

The in-Flight dining options are the same as the Club Europe product on the A320/321.

To read our Review on the BA Club World 777 Seat, Click Here >British airways Club World 777 Review<

Iberia fly on the LHR – MAD route daily the Airbus A340 long haul aircraft featuring the Iberia long haul business class seat. This Business class seat is one of the best out there at present and relatively new to the market.

The flight departure time from London Heathrow to Madrid to select the Airbus A340 is 18.45 – 22.05 on flight No: BA7059 and can be found one way for £178.00.

 

A340-600 Iberia business class

 

 

How to Find those Cheap Business Class / Club World Seats

Everyday from London Heathrow (LHR) to Madrid (MAD), British airways / Iberia fly up to 13 Times a day. All of these flights offer Club Europe or Business Class as standard.

However, only two of these flights per day use the Boeing 777 / Airbus A340 Long-haul aircraft instead of the smaller Airbus A320/321 aircraft used regularly on this route daily.

If you want to fly in Club World Seats on the Boeing 777 on the LHR  – MAD route, you need to select the 13.20 LHR – 16.45 MAD flight (BA0640) as detailed below. 

World Seats on Club Europe

BA Club World on Club europe

The cheapest outbound flight from London Heathrow to Madrid one way on flight No: BA0640 containing the Club World seats we could find was £178.00.

We did find if you book a return flight 7 days later, you will only pay £148.00 for the inbound flight in the same cabin with Club World Seats, total price – £325.24 Return.

When booking your inbound flight from Madrid to London Heathrow, you need to select the flight departing at 18.15 – 19.40 (BA0641).

The cheapest we could find this flight soon was £148.00 in Business Class on the 777. 



To bag these Club World Seats on the Boeing 777 even cheaper, we found you can use up to 38,000 avios points in your account to reduce the return fare down to £125.24. 

You will also earn 2358 avios points for the return flights which you could use to offset the amount of Avios Points needed to reduce the fare price by £200 down to 35,642 points.

Verdict / Recommendations

With a little bit of knowledge, you can sit in Business Class seats on Long Haul aircraft within europe for as little as £148.00 one way or £325.24 Return.

British airways or Iberia long haul Business Class seats can cost you upwards of £1000 each way, per person. If your on a Skint Budget but still would like to experience the luxury of long haul business class seats, the LHR – MAD route could be the answer.

There are very few opportunities out there at present to experience expensive long haul seats within europe.

Follow the details set out in this article, consider using Goggle flights to search availability further out and you may find these flights even cheaper or sign up to our regular Newsletter to receive notifications first of any British airways flight sales as this could also result in cheaper flights on this route.

In our next article, we will explore how to book British Airways First Class Seats for as little as 40,000 avios within Europe. Click Here >BA First Class for 40,000 Avios<

If you have any questions or want to leave your comments on this article, please leave your comment below.